NBA Discussion Thread - Page 1310

aNYtitan · 12-02-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scottyboy

it is to us.
****. why are you doing this to me?
Would you like it if I told you you're 2 inch weiner wasn't a big one? exactly.
We'll win 3 of our next 5 games, let's do it!

Sure scotty, whatever you say. And the Knicks will be able to trade both Curry and Jeffries in one deal and not give up any draft picks

*sarcasm

Rosebud · 12-03-2009, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by aNYtitan

Sure scotty, whatever you say. And the Knicks will be able to trade both Curry and Jeffries in one deal and not give up any draft picks

*sarcasm

Jeffries has been beasting and Eddy Curry just winz gamez...

MetSox17 · 12-03-2009, 07:29 AM

Sooo, the Kings are 9-8 :D. Evans is beasting like we thought he would. Thompson is looking like a stud, playing a lot better defense. Hawes when he's on the floor looks so good offensively. Casspi and Greene with a ton of potential. I love the way this team is built. The best part is that they're winning games. It's not all just potential.

nobodyinparticular · 12-03-2009, 01:41 PM

I've heard a lot of people differ on the potential of Tyreke Evans on the court, but this question is only partially related to his performance on the court. Does Tyreke Evans really have the potential/ability to become an NBA fixture like Dwyane Wade?

I have seen quite a few people make the skills comparison between Havoc and Flash, but I want to know if this would carry over to the endorsements and being a media darling. Right now, when people bring up the NBA, the 3 faces are Lebron, Howard and Wade more than anyone else--they are in commercials advertising NBA products and games, they seem to have more high-profile media endorsements than any other NBA player, they are on the front of magazines and in magazine features constantly. Is this something that can be expected from Evans? Because, let's be honest, that's something foreign to the Sacramento Kings. I did a search for the Kings' Sports Illustrated covers--they had a total of 2--once in 2001 with White Chocolate and once in 2003 with Bibby/Jackson.

What do you guys think?

CC.SD · 12-03-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nobodyinparticular

I've heard a lot of people differ on the potential of Tyreke Evans on the court, but this question is only partially related to his performance on the court. Does Tyreke Evans really have the potential/ability to become an NBA fixture like Dwyane Wade?

I have seen quite a few people make the skills comparison between Havoc and Flash, but I want to know if this would carry over to the endorsements and being a media darling. Right now, when people bring up the NBA, the 3 faces are Lebron, Howard and Wade more than anyone else--they are in commercials advertising NBA products and games, they seem to have more high-profile media endorsements than any other NBA player, they are on the front of magazines and in magazine features constantly. Is this something that can be expected from Evans? Because, let's be honest, that's something foreign to the Sacramento Kings. I did a search for the Kings' Sports Illustrated covers--they had a total of 2--once in 2001 with White Chocolate and once in 2003 with Bibby/Jackson.

What do you guys think?

And to address your other points...no, no Sac player can become an NBA fixture and it's strictly for media/visibility reasons. The few times I've seen Evans play this year his shot selection has been extremly spotty but to be fair he is a rookie and that can be improved. Can't argue with his frame/athleticism.

dabears10 · 12-03-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CC.SD

And to address your other points...no, no Sac player can become an NBA fixture and it's strictly for media/visibility reasons. The few times I've seen Evans play this year his shot selection has been extremly spotty but to be fair he is a rookie and that can be improved. Can't argue with his frame/athleticism.

Well Sacramento is the same size as Cleveland and Orlando. The Lakers have shown that it can be done on the west coast. Sacramento was pretty popular with Webber even if he wasn't electrifying like most stars.

sweetness34 · 12-03-2009, 03:04 PM

I want to see Derrick do this more often;

CC.SD · 12-03-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dabears10

Well Sacramento is the same size as Cleveland and Orlando. The Lakers have shown that it can be done on the west coast. Sacramento was pretty popular with Webber even if he wasn't electrifying like most stars.

I would wager that at least 50% of the CA population could not tell you that Sacramento is it's capital, and I would go with 70% if Arnold Schwarzenegger weren't the governor. It's not about the city size (and certainly not West Coast), it's about accessibility and Sacramento is not a well known city. This is all just IMO of course.

nobodyinparticular · 12-03-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CC.SD

And to address your other points...no, no Sac player can become an NBA fixture and it's strictly for media/visibility reasons. The few times I've seen Evans play this year his shot selection has been extremly spotty but to be fair he is a rookie and that can be improved. Can't argue with his frame/athleticism.

Oh yeah. And that guy too.

Brodeur · 12-03-2009, 03:55 PM

The real face of the NBA:

BYNUMITE.

Wootylicous · 12-03-2009, 04:31 PM

So I've decided to follow one team at the beginning of the season and it was the Nets and I kind of like them but man oh man the Nets are so bad

I feel you scotty :(

dabears10 · 12-04-2009, 11:01 AM

Knicks fans, what do you think about the rumors of Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James for Al Harrington?

D-Unit · 12-04-2009, 11:46 AM

Better Point Guard. Brandon Jennnings or Derrick Rose?

JT Jag · 12-04-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by D-Unit

Better Point Guard. Brandon Jennnings or Derrick Rose?

I can't rate Jennings as high as Rose until Jennings shows maturity in the clutch like Rose did in the playoffs vs. Boston last year.

Rosebud · 12-04-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dabears10

Knicks fans, what do you think about the rumors of Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James for Al Harrington?

I like it, as long as we don't plan on re-signing TT. Then again I hate dumb players like Al so I'd give him up for a worthless expiring if I were in Walsh's shoes. Tyrus may not be a smart player himself, but he'll take less shots and give us better D inside. That means Gallo's role expands and I think this is a deal that could pave the way for a Lee trade in 2 weeks once he's tradeable again with Tyrus and Hill taking over Lee's role.

LTgiants · 12-04-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dabears10

Knicks fans, what do you think about the rumors of Tyrus Thomas and Jerome James for Al Harrington?

NOOOO we cant bring Jerome James back here and Ty Thomas ehhh not really feeling giving up Al for him.

Rosebud · 12-04-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Unit

Better Point Guard. Brandon Jennnings or Derrick Rose?

Rose, he's actually shown that he'll make his team-mates better and run his team. Jennings on the other hand has just been a scoring guard.

Rosebud · 12-04-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LTgiants

NOOOO we cant bring Jerome James back here and Ty Thomas ehhh not really feeling giving up Al for him.

Al's trash and takes shots from Gallo, I'd give Al up for James straight up.

yo123 · 12-04-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosebud

Rose, he's actually shown that he'll make his team-mates better and run his team. Jennings on the other hand has just been a scoring guard.

Jennings averages more assists and his team has a better record. How is Rose doing a better job of making his teammates better?

Rosebud · 12-04-2009, 01:07 PM

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Jennings averages more assists and his team has a better record. How is Rose doing a better job of making his teammates better?

I'm not ready to judge Rose on his play this year, he's been hampered by the ankle and rust quite a bit. But the 3 games I've seen of Rose he is much more of a floor general than Jennings. BJ still has that look that he had in Europe, where he's bringing the ball up already looking for his shot half the time and I strongly dislike score first point guards. It's way to early to say, but that's the impression I've gotten and Jennings really hasn't changed his style of play from the habits I disliked when he was playing for Rome.

LTgiants · 12-04-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosebud

Al's trash and takes shots from Gallo, I'd give Al up for James straight up.

Without AL we might have zero wins like the nets. Jerome James is horrible worthless pile of crap and Ty Thomas isn't that great we don't gain much from having him here either. The devil you know is better then the one you don't

CC.SD · 12-04-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LTgiants

Without AL we might have zero wins like the nets. Jerome James is horrible worthless pile of crap and Ty Thomas isn't that great we don't gain much from having him here either. The devil you know is better then the one you don't

I only saw him play in one game but I thought Hill looked pretty good and should be getting more minutes, why screw up his development with Thomas? Who would I admit look pretty good running around in D'antoni's flying circus. I guess that's the answer, but it still screws over Hill and makes the lack of Jennings look even worse.

LTgiants · 12-04-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CC.SD

I only saw him play in one game but I thought Hill looked pretty good and should be getting more minutes, why screw up his development with Thomas? Who would I admit look pretty good running around in D'antoni's flying circus. I guess that's the answer, but it still screws over Hill and makes the lack of Jennings look even worse.

Hill hasn't been getting enough playing time even if this trade would to not happen D'antoni has basically said he wants to stick to just a 8 man rotation and Hill isn't in it sadly.

Rosebud · 12-04-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LTgiants

Without AL we might have zero wins like the nets. Jerome James is horrible worthless pile of crap and Ty Thomas isn't that great we don't gain much from having him here either. The devil you know is better then the one you don't

I disagree, Al has shot us out of way more games than he's kept us in. Tyrus at least helps our paint defense and gives us another finishing big man who won't take many shots from gallo like Al does. We'd have at least 4 wins if we handed gallo the keys to this team. This just accelerates that process.

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Originally Posted by CC.SD

I only saw him play in one game but I thought Hill looked pretty good and should be getting more minutes, why screw up his development with Thomas? Who would I admit look pretty good running around in D'antoni's flying circus. I guess that's the answer, but it still screws over Hill and makes the lack of Jennings look even worse.

We're being slow with Hill and as I said above I think bringing in Tyrus would pave the way to trade away Lee after the 15th for a late first rounder, which would give Hill a better chance to take over more minutes than he would splitting time with lee.

dabears10 · 12-04-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosebud

I disagree, Al has shot us out of way more games than he's kept us in. Tyrus at least helps our paint defense and gives us another finishing big man who won't take many shots from gallo like Al does. We'd have at least 4 wins if we handed gallo the keys to this team. This just accelerates that process.

Tyrus in D'antoni's system will shoot a lot. He wants to prove he has a jump shot.