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Nets looked not horribled. Lopez and C-Lee. Harris filling the stat sheet but god just so ugly. Yi is horrible and Hassel, how I love him, has no offensive game.
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lol, mayo free throw fail leads to kobe game winner, even funnier the crowd cheered when kobe made it and its in memphis
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20.8 ppg
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4.4 rpg
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.345 3pt average
.49 fg perecntage

how is that by any stretch of the imagination overrated?

playing like a top 5 point guard since he took over, turnovers or not.
Uh dude he's not just been turning it over 3-4 times a game, he's been having 5, 8, 10 turnover games on regular occasion.

Sorry but that's awful. He's still putting together a nice stretch but people are acting like he's basically doing exactly what Chris Paul does on a night in and night out basis which is very far from the truth. Paul is a great passer who doesn't turn the ball over. Collison is still a rookie who hopefully will learn to control his major turn over problems, and I think he will.

Most rookies have turn over issues so it's not a big deal.
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umm...how did the suns just win? i turned it off, the refs were pissing me off

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20.8 ppg
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.49 fg perecntage

how is that by any stretch of the imagination overrated?

playing like a top 5 point guard since he took over, turnovers or not.

You can't just say turnovers or not that's ridiculous. That's like saying Adrian Peterson is the best running back in the league, fumbles or not. A point guard's main job is to distribute the ball and take care of it and he's failing hard at the latter.

Top 5 is absolutely insane.
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You can't just say turnovers or not that's ridiculous. That's like saying Adrian Peterson is the best running back in the league, fumbles or not. A point guard's main job is to distribute the ball and take care of it and he's failing hard at the latter.

Top 5 is absolutely insane.
is it really? who's the four playing better than him?
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who suggested that lol
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25 GW FGs made since 03, compared to Kobe's 24. Kobe also had more attempts in that same timespan.

So yes. LeBron is more "clutch" than the rapist.
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is it really? who's the four playing better than him?

Williams, Rose, Rondo, Nash, Chauncey.

That was even easier than I thought.
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Williams, Rose, Rondo, Nash, Chauncey.

That was even easier than I thought.
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Williams, Rose, Rondo, Nash, Chauncey.

That was even easier than I thought.
how is rondo playing better? rondo only has 6 threes in february, and a .60 free throw percentage. I dont even think rondo would think rondo is playing better than collison

rose?

chauncey is scoring better than collison but collison still has him beat in steals rebounds, and free throw percentage.

Nash, and Williams are the only ones i visibily see that there's no argument that is playing better than collison.

Not to mention who collison is playing with: mo peterson, emeka okafor, peja.

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how is rondo playing better? rondo only has 6 threes in february, and a .60 free throw percentage. I dont even think rondo would think rondo is playing better than collison

rose?

chauncey is scoring better than collison but collison still has him beat in steals rebounds, and free throw percentage.


You have to make threes to be a good point guard? He's never been a three point shooter and he doesn't have to. He's shooting 52% from the floor as a guard. That's amazing. Along with almost 10 assists a game without turning it over 45 times a game. Rondo is playing better and it's not even a little bit close.

Ummm. Yes. Rose.

Collison does not have Chauncey beat in FT % I'm not sure how you got that Chauncey is shooting 90%. He's shooting absolutely lights out lately and once again, takes care of the ball. Which for whatever reason you don't think is that important. He's had games of 10, 8, and 6 turnovers in the past two weeks. Not only can you not be a top 5 PG doing that, you're not even helping your team.

I know he's a UCLA boy and all but this argument is ridiculous.
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You have to make threes to be a good point guard? He's never been a three point shooter and he doesn't have to. He's shooting 52% from the floor as a guard. That's amazing. Along with almost 10 assists a game without turning it over 45 times a game. Rondo is playing better and it's not even a little bit close.
collison is honestly a more complete pg. Leading him in several categories. rondo is also playing with 3 hall of famers. And i said who is playing better than collision right now. Look at the numbers for february. .491 fg > .486 (even though .05 is negligible)

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I know he's a UCLA boy and all but this argument is ridiculous.
whoops, i meant field goal percentage not free throw percentage.
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I want you to defend his 35 TO's in the last 6 games. That's all. You keep dodging this. That's why Rose is playing better.

A turnover is the worst possible thing you can do with the ball in your hands and since CP3 went down he's done it over 5 times a game. There are plenty of point guards in the league that can average 8 APG by taking bad chances. Cut those in half and sure I'll buy that he's playing like a top 5 point guard.
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The biggest hole in your argument is the turnovers. The fact that he is turning it over 6, 7, 8, 9 times, brings down his performance. Once he gets this under control, then you can make a more compelling argument. His future is incredibly bright, if he can hold onto the damn ball.
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I want you to defend his 35 TO's in the last 6 games. That's all. You keep dodging this. That's why Rose is playing better.

A turnover is the worst possible thing you can do with the ball in your hands and since CP3 went down he's done it over 5 times a game. Cut those in half and sure I'll buy that he's playing like a top 5 point guard.
i cant. i agree, he's at times reckless and moving too fast for his own good, but he's still only a rookie and learning this role. He was thrust into this position as general of the team and may be trying to do too much.
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25 GW FGs made since 03, compared to Kobe's 24. Kobe also had more attempts in that same timespan.

So yes. LeBron is more "clutch" than the rapist.
You're out of your mind....and the "rapist" statement was dumb.

I bet you could ask anyone...players/coaches in the league who they would want taking the final shot of the game and they would give it to KB.
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