NBA Discussion Thread - Page 1419

RaiderNation · 03-10-2010, 11:48 PM

Tyreke Evans <3

Im so happy I bought his throwback jersey.... gonna be wearing it tomarrow for sure

tjsunstein · 03-10-2010, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RaiderNation

Tyreke Evans <3

Im so happy I bought his throwback jersey.... gonna be wearing it tomarrow for sure

I don't like people like you. :)

Thumper · 03-11-2010, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fenikz

lol ya in a few years

He is already sick, but in a few years he is going to be on a superstar level, like on par with D-Wade and Lebron. All he has to do is raise his rebounding average .1 and he would be only the third rookie to average 20-5-5, who else did that? Michael Jordan and Lebron James.

Tyreke is going to be a superstud.

SickwithIt1010 · 03-11-2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

He is already sick, but in a few years he is going to be on a superstar level, like on par with Kobe ,D-Wade and Lebron. All he has to do is raise his rebounding average .1 and he would be only the third rookie to average 20-5-5, who else did that? Michael Jordan and Lebron James.

Tyreke is going to be a superstud.

Fixed it for ya my man.....

....forgot the black mamba :)

Chucky · 03-11-2010, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

Fixed it for ya my man.....

....forgot the black mamba :)

in a few years Kobe will not be on superstar level.

so no need to fix anything....just kinda makes you look like a jackass

YAYareaRB · 03-11-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chucky

in a few years Kobe will not be on superstar level.

so no need to fix anything....just kinda makes you look like a jackass

Are you serious?

nobodyinparticular · 03-11-2010, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper

He is already sick, but in a few years he is going to be on a superstar level, like on par with D-Wade and Lebron. All he has to do is raise his rebounding average .1 and he would be only the third rookie to average 20-5-5, who else did that? Michael Jordan and Lebron James.

Tyreke is going to be a superstud.

To put it, perhaps, into even better perspective... If Evans had a total of 8 more rebounds right now, he would be at 20-5-5.

Eight.

Rebounds.

Total.

SickwithIt1010 · 03-11-2010, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chucky

in a few years Kobe will not be on superstar level.

so no need to fix anything....just kinda makes you look like a jackass

are you for real?

MetSox17 · 03-11-2010, 03:20 AM

So, is the rest of the NBA world finally on the 'Reke bandwagon? Cause me and NIP have been driving that som' ***** since draft day. Like Forenci said, he hasn't even learned how to shoot yet. The beautiful thing about that is, shooting is by far the easiest thing to improve at. Things are looking good in Sacto..

Chucky · 03-11-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by YAYareaRB

Are you serious?

Yes. In 3-4 years, I doubt Kobe Bryant will still be a superstar. An all-star maybe...but not a superstar.

wordofi · 03-11-2010, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chucky

Yes. In 3-4 years, I doubt Kobe Bryant will still be a superstar. An all-star maybe...but not a superstar.

If he's not, then it will finally give Bynum a chance to step up. His development has been hindered due to the fact that he plays for the Lakers as well as his injurues.

YAYareaRB · 03-11-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chucky

Yes. In 3-4 years, I doubt Kobe Bryant will still be a superstar. An all-star maybe...but not a superstar.

People like Kobe Bryant don't just whither off into non-existence. Jordan was still ballin well into his mid 30s and I think Kobe will be doing the same thing. Am I making comparisons between the two? no but I do think the two a very similar when it comes to aging. Either way, Kobe will always be a superstar in LA

M.O.T.H. · 03-11-2010, 12:25 PM

Meh, you never know what will happen. Look at ole T-Mac.

P-L · 03-11-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by YAYareaRB

People like Kobe Bryant don't just whither off into non-existence. Jordan was still ballin well into his mid 30s and I think Kobe will be doing the same thing. Am I making comparisons between the two? no but I do think the two a very similar when it comes to aging. Either way, Kobe will always be a superstar in LA

Chucky didn't say Kobe was going to whither into non-existence, he said he was "only" going to be an all-star. I don't think it's that outlandish to think the guy won't be one of the two or three best players in the game at 35 years old. Personally, I'm not going to bet against him, but it is a realistic possibility that he sees some sort of decline in the next 3-4 years.

Chucky · 03-11-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by YAYareaRB

People like Kobe Bryant don't just whither off into non-existence. Jordan was still ballin well into his mid 30s and I think Kobe will be doing the same thing. Am I making comparisons between the two? no but I do think the two a very similar when it comes to aging. Either way, Kobe will always be a superstar in LA

Way to not read what I wrote at all.

There is a difference between being a superstar and to just ``whither off into non-existence``. A superstar to me is a top 3-5 player in the league.

EDIT: Thanks P-L

Morton · 03-11-2010, 02:00 PM

Quick question: How would you classify Andre Igoudala?

Is he considered a top player, like on the same level as D-Wade, Kobe, and Lebron?

LTgiants · 03-11-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Morton

Quick question: How would you classify Andre Igoudala?

Is he considered a top player, like on the same level as D-Wade, Kobe, and Lebron?

No I think he is more of a guy who is a 2nd tier star ala Scottie Pippen to Michael Jordan type of guy.

SeanTaylorRIP · 03-11-2010, 02:04 PM

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No I think he is more of a guy who is a 2nd tier star ala Scottie Pippen to Michael Jordan type of guy.

Well Iggy doesn't have the intangibles like Pippen to be a star even on a loaded team. I love Iggy but his offensive game is bad. Bad jump shot and awful shot selection. He's a star on a mediocre team, but IMO on a championship contending team he would kind of hurt flow and not find a comfortable spot.

Brodeur · 03-11-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LTgiants

No I think he is more of a guy who is a 2nd tier star ala Scottie Pippen to Michael Jordan type of guy.

Pippen was a star in his own right. Look at Jordan's first retirement Bulls without him.

LTgiants · 03-11-2010, 02:18 PM

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Well Iggy doesn't have the intangibles like Pippen to be a star even on a loaded team. I love Iggy but his offensive game is bad. Bad jump shot and awful shot selection. He's a star on a mediocre team, but IMO on a championship contending team he would kind of hurt flow and not find a comfortable spot.

Well I guess its a difference of opinions but I will take Iggy even with his jump shot. I think if you created a loaded team that Iggy shot selection would not be as bad as it is cause he has to do a lot of the scoring for the 76ers with not as much help as he would have on a loaded team.

I wasn't comparing Iggy to Pippen I was just saying on star level he should not be the Batman of the team he would be better of being the 2nd or 3rd star like Pippen was to MJ.

M.O.T.H. · 03-11-2010, 02:42 PM

Iggy's def. not a top player. He's certainly a good player and a good compliment type. But, I wouldnt call him a star or anything. He's not someone who can carry a team on his back and as was said, his offensive game leaves a lot to be desired sometimes.

YAYareaRB · 03-11-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chucky

Way to not read what I wrote at all.

There is a difference between being a superstar and to just ``whither off into non-existence``. A superstar to me is a top 3-5 player in the league.

EDIT: Thanks P-L

I mean Kobe is the name in basketball. I definitely worded it wrong. l think good (all star caliber players) consist of players like Jason Kidd, Ray Allen, Allen Iverson, etc. These players are all around the same age as Kobe but aren't even on the same radar as him. That's what I meant. With the younger guys coming up, it's gonna be hard for Kobe to keep his superstar status but he's not the best in the game right now for no reason, no way a player of his caliber drops down a tier in the span of a few years.

Kramer · 03-11-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Morton

Quick question: How would you classify Andre Igoudala?

Is he considered a top player, like on the same level as D-Wade, Kobe, and Lebron?

LOL that you ask if hes on the same level as D-Wade, Kobe, and Lebron. He isn’t there by any means, and it shouldn’t even be a question to ask, but hes definitely 2nd tier.

CC.SD · 03-11-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Morton

Quick question: How would you classify Andre Igoudala?

Is he considered a top player, like on the same level as D-Wade, Kobe, and Lebron?

If you have to ask...

El Peefs????? · 03-11-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by YAYareaRB

I mean Kobe is the name in basketball. I definitely worded it wrong. l think good (all star caliber players) consist of players like Jason Kidd, Ray Allen, Allen Iverson, etc. These players are all around the same age as Kobe but aren't even on the same radar as him. That's what I meant. With the younger guys coming up, it's gonna be hard for Kobe to keep his superstar status but he's not the best in the game right now for no reason, no way a player of his caliber drops down a tier in the span of a few years.

Look I get it, Kobe can do no wrong in your eyes and seeing him not be the best just isnt fathomable to you. But no player can drop down a tier in the course of a few years? It happens to everyone man.

Its going to happen to Kobe, whether its the next few years or a couple after that. Hes been playing banged up & through injuries for years now, you know thats taking a toll on his body. There are literally endless examples of hall of famers whose productivity, numbers, & often health have dropped off significantly in a 2-3 year span. The mean playing years this seems to happen around is 12-14.