NBA Discussion Thread - Page 142

M.O.T.H. · 06-22-2007, 11:14 PM

I know i've been posting about him a lot lately but, it looks as though Sessions may have worked his way into the first. Early 2nd at worst....i think he could be a steal...He'd be perfect for the Magic's new offense, imo...he just needs to work on his jumper a bit...hopefully, we can find a way to get him.

sweetness34 · 06-22-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearsfan123

sweetness wouldnt u like him on the Bulls?

Um yea I would. You want to know why GS lost to Utah? Or well the main reason? They couldn't friggin rebound. And if they trade Biedrins it's not going to make them better. No rebounds, no rings.

DLS42 · 06-22-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetness34

Um yea I would. You want to know why GS lost to Utah? Or well the main reason? They couldn't friggin rebound. And if they trade Biedrins it's not going to make them better. No rebounds, no rings.

Yea, but thats the style we committed to. i mean unless we get shaq or dwight we will never be even close in the rebounding department. we can lose the overall rebounding but we absolutely cant lose the offensive rebounding battle. i don't know how many times i saw boozer grab an easy re and dunk in that series. i dont think Yi will solve that but he may cover that with more scoring. not the best solution but unless we get a new style, we have to work with it.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-23-2007, 08:53 AM

Patrick O'Bryant sucks ass, he will never be anything in the league, he was an awful pick. The Warriors should have traded him to Indiana instead of Ike.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-23-2007, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DLS42

Joe Johnson. As bad as billy king has screwed up the hawks, even he couldnt mess this up. I mean their starting lineup would be
PG: Tyronn Lue
SG: Johnson
SF: Josh Smith
PF: Shelden Williams
C: KG.
In the East they would be a 5-7 seed and the possibility to go deeper.

Lineup would be more like this:
PG:who cares, Speedy, Anthony Johnson, Tlue, Salim, Royal.
SG:Joe Johnson
SF:Josh Childress
PF:Josh Smith
C:KG

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-23-2007, 09:02 AM

Wow Nets fans should be ecstatic right now they are very high on McRoberts at 17, and get this they are seriously considering Big Baby at 17, lol.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-23-2007, 09:29 AM

One trade rumor being discussed is #30 and Andre Miller for #11, and as a Hawks fan I'd love that.

Brodeur · 06-23-2007, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghettosermon

Wow Nets fans should be ecstatic right now they are very high on McRoberts at 17, and get this they are seriously considering Big Baby at 17, lol.

Better than considering Sean Williams at 17 like some people thought they might.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-23-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

Better than considering Sean Williams at 17 like some people thought they might.

I'd take Williams over Davis anyday, yeah he has character issues, but he has potential to be a defensive monster, big baby will never be better than the 8th man off the bench.

Brodeur · 06-23-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghettosermon

I'd take Williams over Davis anyday, yeah he has character issues, but he has potential to be a defensive monster, big baby will never be better than the 8th man off the bench.

I agree that Williams is far more talented but his character concerns are extreme and he just doesn't even seem to care about basketball. The only team I can see him working out for is Houston because it's near his home town. As for Big Baby, I think he could be a decent 6th man and a guy who can play PF/C off the bench, but I don't see him being much better than Tractor Traylor. Either way, I'd still take him over the head case.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-23-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

I agree that Williams is far more talented but his character concerns are extreme and he just doesn't even seem to care about basketball. The only team I can see him working out for is Houston because it's near his home town. As for Big Baby, I think he could be a decent 6th man and a guy who can play PF/C off the bench, but I don't see him being much better than Tractor Traylor. Either way, I'd still take him over the head case.

Well Tractor Traylor was awful his entire career. Anyways in the latter of round 1 I'd take Williams. His risk is no different than say drafting a Rudy Fernandez who might stay in Spain another 5 years, or a Daequan Cook who hasn't proven anything.

Right now I'm feeling Big baby #39 to Miami.

Brodeur · 06-23-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghettosermon

Well Tractor Traylor was awful his entire career. Anyways in the latter of round 1 I'd take Williams. His risk is no different than say drafting a Rudy Fernandez who might stay in Spain another 5 years, or a Daequan Cook who hasn't proven anything.

I'm not going to dispute Tractor being awful because well, he was. But I think Sean Williams can have a Darius Miles type of negative effect on his team, and that's why I'd shy away from him. And true, Rudy may take the Luis Scola route and stay in the Euroleague for the next half-decade, but I just don't see that happening with Rudy and I think he'll be in the NBA very soon.

As for Cook, well, he certainly hasn't shown what he's capable of yet and he is a bit selfish, but the potential is there and he isn't too much of a head case to the point where a team shouldn't be afraid to draft him in the late 1st to early 2nd.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-23-2007, 10:50 AM

I see no reason why Rudy should go to the NBA unless that is really his dream, he has chance to sign a 5 year deal worth 25 mil to be a star and play in his hometown, or go to the NBA make 1 mil a year and be on the bench.

scottyboy · 06-23-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghettosermon

Wow Nets fans should be ecstatic right now they are very high on McRoberts at 17, and get this they are seriously considering Big Baby at 17, lol.

dont tell me this ghetto!!!! i dont want McRoberts at all, and big baby would be nice in the 2nd round, but at 17? uggh. if this are our top 2 guys when its our pick, we better trade down to a team that needs a good PG is guys like law, crittenton etc fall

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-23-2007, 02:57 PM

Argument why Kevin Durant should go #1 overall: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYzdGn_jIRU, Convinced Me.

princefielder28 · 06-23-2007, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghettosermon

Argument why Kevin Durant should go #1 overall: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYzdGn_jIRU, Convinced Me.

Portland's GM said it was one of the best workouts he's ever seen and Durant would fit in there right away while Oden has to compete with Randolph and Aldiridge for PT

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-23-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by princefielder28

Portland's GM said it was one of the best workouts he's ever seen and Durant would fit in there right away while Oden has to compete with Randolph and Aldiridge for PT

That's all just teasing us, while Oden had an awful workout with them he's still the pick.

princefielder28 · 06-23-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghettosermon

That's all just teasing us, while Oden had an awful workout with them he's still the pick.

Portland wouldn't look too bad with a lineup of Jack, Roy, Durant, Randolph, and Aldridge.

Brodeur · 06-23-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghettosermon

Argument why Kevin Durant should go #1 overall: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYzdGn_jIRU, Convinced Me.

She didn't think Oden, the 40 year old freshman, is as cute as Durant? There's a shocker.

RoyHall#1 · 06-23-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghettosermon

One trade rumor being discussed is #30 and Andre Miller for #11, and as a Hawks fan I'd love that.

Yeah, I'd say... would you rather have 1st round of Horford and Law, or Horford, Miller, and Gasol, lol.

M.O.T.H. · 06-23-2007, 04:28 PM

I dont know why the sixers are shopping Miller...they were a completely different team with him... I've heard his name come up in a number of rumored deals...

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-23-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RoyHall#1

Yeah, I'd say... would you rather have 1st round of Horford and Law, or Horford, Miller, and Gasol, lol.

Well I surely don't want Gasol, but Sean Williams, Morris Almond, sure.

SeanTaylorRIP · 06-23-2007, 04:49 PM

Fun to look ahead and of course most of these guys are staying, but in 08 the free agent class is rediculous if just a couple of these guys go elsewhere it could be one of the biggest Free Agent Classes ever:

Unrestricted:Allen Iverson, Baron Davis, Gilbert Arenas, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Antawn Jamison, Shawn Marion, Ron Artest, Steve Francis, Stephon Marbury, Elton Brand, Corey Maggete, Jermaine Oneal, Bruce Bowen.

Restricted:Josh Smith, Al Jefferson, Ekeka Okafor, Luol Deng, Ben Gordon, Devin Harris, Monta Ellis, Andris Biedrins, Shaun Livingston, Craig Smith, Nenad Kristic, Dwight Howard, Jameer Nelson, Andre Iguodala, Kevin Martin, Jose Calderon,

M.O.T.H. · 06-23-2007, 04:52 PM

Jameer's future is really hinging on this season... as for Howard, it's just a matter of time before he signs that 5 year 85 million extension.

RaiderNation · 06-23-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghettosermon

Fun to look ahead and of course most of these guys are staying, but in 08 the free agent class is rediculous if just a couple of these guys go elsewhere it could be one of the biggest Free Agent Classes ever:

Unrestricted:Allen Iverson, Baron Davis, Gilbert Arenas, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Antawn Jamison, Shawn Marion, Ron Artest, Steve Francis, Stephon Marbury, Elton Brand, Corey Maggete, Jermaine Oneal, Bruce Bowen.

Restricted:Josh Smith, Al Jefferson, Ekeka Okafor, Luol Deng, Ben Gordon, Devin Harris, Monta Ellis, Andris Biedrins, Shaun Livingston, Craig Smith, Nenad Kristic, Dwight Howard, Jameer Nelson, Andre Iguodala, Kevin Martin, Jose Calderon,

Wow if Dwight Howard were a FA about every team would make a offer. Duncan will get resigned.