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Old 05-16-2010, 05:33 PM    (permalink
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Or Lebron and Bosh can play in NY where they already have room for 2 max contracts.
or NY can **** off and keep their hands off our player :D
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Exactly, why not just go to New Jersey and then you have Devin Harris, Bropez, and a high lottery pick, quite possibly John Wall.
Because it's Newark...
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Can we expect some "Magic Meltdown Worst Disaster" type stories from ESPN tonight?
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Because it's Newark...
Now, I might be wrong because I'm not from the East coast, but how much worse can that be than Cleveland and Toronto...
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Now, I might be wrong because I'm not from the East coast, but how much worse can that be than Cleveland and Toronto...
A lot worse. Newark is pretty terrible and just an overall ****** city. It's also usually at or near the top for cities with crime and to my recollection car stealing lol.
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or NY can **** off and keep their hands off our player :D
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Exactly, why not just go to New Jersey and then you have Devin Harris, Bropez, and a high lottery pick, quite possibly John Wall.
I will keep it simple as possible it's New Jersey.

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Chandler>>Gallo as a player.


They have no PG unless Spanish Chocolate develops.
I think Gallo is better but w/e its your opinion.

Sergio probably wont get resigned cause the Knicks are probably not going to offer him his 2 million dollar QO.
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Now, I might be wrong because I'm not from the East coast, but how much worse can that be than Cleveland and Toronto...
i think it's interesting that people (esp. the media) act like Toronto is like Cleveland or Milwaukee or something. Toronto is a huge city with a ton of stuff to do. It's just in Canada, only negative.
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I understand the godawful situation that the Pistons are in, and I thus do not have any delusions of grandeur.
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Now, I might be wrong because I'm not from the East coast, but how much worse can that be than Cleveland and Toronto...
Newark itself as a city is pretty bad. Not exactly the safest place, I live like 15, 20 minutes away and avoid it if at all possible. That said, anybody playing in Newark isn't going to spend much time outside of practice and games there. It's really close to NYC so that's where players would probably spend most of their time or maybe live. There's some nice suburbs around the area as well, but Newark is definitely not a place I'd want to spend any time in.
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remember when:
A) Newark's not as bad now, there was a lot of **** when the Devils went there and Barry Melrose talked **** and just got owned.

B) The Nets are...well... MOVING TO BROOKLYN.

C) And yea, because Cleveland and Toronto are sooo much better than Newark/Brooklyn

do people actually think that's going to be such a huge factor too? OH MAN, Newark is a bad city! why would I wanna play there for 2 years and win when I could go to the Knicks or stay in Cleveland where I can just not win anything for ever.

Honestly, I want Lebron to just not sign with the Knicks, to spite all the ign'ant fans.

Chicago, the Clippers and the Nets give Lebron the best chances to win, simple as that.
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That core is absolute trash.

It is worse than the Raps and the Cavs current cores(minus the Bosh and LeBron) by far. While the Knicks could of course add two max players making it better, that core is still ******* trash. When Bill Walker is the fourth player you list off....you know you are ******
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when gallo is the 1st and chandler is the 2nd you are ******
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I'd say the 5th being an expiring contract is all the more rage.
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when gallo is the 1st and chandler is the 2nd you are ******
You make it seem like Gallo is a piece of crap, yet the kid is going into his third year and looks like he has the making of a sharpshooter who has to touch up his handling skills. He has developed into an effective defender who doesn't have a problem taking the big shot if he gets it. Chandler i'm not as high on as most knicks fans, but he would be a dangerous 6th man type, just a person that can take it to the rim with ease and has a spot up jump shot. Also plays excellent defense.

We needed to lay waste to the previous team, and the building blocks are small. But if you can convince LeBron to make the move for 3 years and sign a Bosh (max contract) or Joe Johnson ($10-12 million, and allows us to go after another max contract next season if they don't trade Curry) or somehow Dirk (close to the max), then the team is completely different, and it becomes a lethal combination.

And yeah the Nets are moving to Brooklyn....in two years. Thats if they can ever get out of the legal lawsuits and start building that is.
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Also, Detroit, if we offered to take Rip Hamilton for Eddy Curry's expiring would you do it?

Or would NO trade Emeka and Collison for Curry?

Or Davis for Curry?

Just to get rid of those awful contracts
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That core is absolute trash.

It is worse than the Raps and the Cavs current cores(minus the Bosh and LeBron) by far. While the Knicks could of course add two max players making it better, that core is still ******* trash. When Bill Walker is the fourth player you list off....you know you are ******

Oh ya 3 former 1st rd picks and 1 2nd rder who have barely been in the league for a couple years that's a terrible core. Bill Walker actually showed he is pretty good and why he was considered as good a prospect that he was coming out of Kansas st before the Knee problems.

All 4 players have played well and still have a lot of room to grow but ya lets call them **** b/c the only time I ever watched the Knicks was against the Raptors.

Who do the Raptors have besides Andrea and Derozan that are any good?

The Cavs core? of Mo Williams who is not very good cant play defense to save his ass and has a terrible contract Shaq who is on the decline Jamison who has a crap contract and did literally nothing. Do I really need to go further with Gibson West and Varejo or do you want to just continue knocking the Knicks based on bs.
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Yeah, I'd probably do it. Dumars refuses to make trades that will help the future of the team though, so I doubt he would do it.
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Yeah, I'd probably do it. Dumars refuses to make trades that will help the future of the team though, so I doubt he would do it.
Alright so if you do that then you got Gallo at PF, Douglas at PG and Hamilton at SG with Chandler coming first off the bench to spell Hamilton. Turns into a much better core no?
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Douglas isn't a true point..IMO still a little better cast but if you don't have legit PG play it is tough to win.
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Also, Detroit, if we offered to take Rip Hamilton for Eddy Curry's expiring would you do it?
I'd do it. We'll probably win exactly 28 games for each of the next 2 or 3 years with Hamilton. This trade gives us cap flexibility and let's us be absolutely horrible next year, which will hopefully result in a top 3 pick.
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I'd do it. We'll probably win exactly 28 games for each of the next 2 or 3 years with Hamilton. This trade gives us cap flexibility and let's us be absolutely horrible next year, which will hopefully result in a top 3 pick.
Instead of 28 games, we might win 26 with Stuckey/Gordon manning the 2 for most of the year. There would be very little difference.
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Douglas isn't a true point..IMO still a little better cast but if you don't have legit PG play it is tough to win.
The argument though is what is the necessity of having a true point if the offense runs through LeBron every time he is on the floor. Toney is a better man to run the point if LeBron signs, because he won't be needed to run the offense. He also is an excellent defender already, which many point guards aren't. He stays in front of his man, gets his hands up and out and makes smart steal attempts.
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Oh ya 3 former 1st rd picks and 1 2nd rder who have barely been in the league for a couple years that's a terrible core. Bill Walker actually showed he is pretty good and why he was considered as good a prospect that he was coming out of Kansas st before the Knee problems.

All 4 players have played well and still have a lot of room to grow but ya lets call them **** b/c the only time I ever watched the Knicks was against the Raptors.

Who do the Raptors have besides Andrea and Derozan that are any good?

The Cavs core? of Mo Williams who is not very good cant play defense to save his ass and has a terrible contract Shaq who is on the decline Jamison who has a crap contract and did literally nothing. Do I really need to go further with Gibson West and Varejo or do you want to just continue knocking the Knicks based on bs.
being a first round pick really doesnt mean much...especially once you get out of the top 10. Bill Walker is a role player at best. And while they are okay pieces....as the main part of a teams core they are considered ****.

I mean...when you include players like Bill Walker then for the Raps I could list off: Andrea, Sonny Weems, Jarret Jack, Jose Calderon, Demar Derozan, as well as Hedo(yes I realize he has a horrible contract).

For the Cavs core...way to leave out one of their best ******* pieces in JJ Hickson. ******* ******
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