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Old 06-09-2010, 11:40 AM    (permalink
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True a flop but still a foul. Garnett had his hands on Pau's back and extended his arm. And I love how he argued to the ref that he was setting the pick with his hands at his crotch like you should.
Without the Pau flop, I doubt the screen even gets called. Gasol makes soccer players look tough sometimes...
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Without the Pau flop, I doubt the screen even gets called. Gasol makes soccer players look tough sometimes...
Quit whining, the Celtics bigs were getting all kinds of leeway on defense against the Lakers last night. They were raping Bynum and Gasol in the post and they weren't calling anything. That was an obvious foul and it would have been called with or without Gasol falling down. And if it wasn't called, Allen missed a wide-open layup and Fisher would have gotten the rebound.
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29 points on 29 shots is really, really awful. Lakers managed to pull out a win where 4 of their 5 starters were extremely "meh" at best offensively. I really don't think Boston can afford that, because I doubt we'll see something like that happen more than one more time this series, and Boston has GOT to take advantage of that.
also, it sucks how Boston's players can't play good consistently and together. it's either one or the other on separate days.
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Boston really needs a James Posey. He could play just as good if not better than D than Allen, and he can stretch the floor. I never thought watching him at OKstate that he would become such a useless offensive player in the league. He and Shannon Brown have lost so much confidence in their offensive game they have totally forgotten that at one point they could score. Now you can leave them open for anything.
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The Harlem Globetrotters are gonna make a run at LeBron and Wade. They even have "King" #6 and "D-Wade" #3 jerseys available for pre-order on their site.

They have a better chance than the Nets.. but thats about it
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I didn't realize bold was a synonym for stupid in this thread. Collison will never be the defender Rondo is nor the finisher around the basket. also....Rondo is a significantly better rebounder.
Well, there's things Rondo is better than Collison at and vice versa.

Collison is no slouch on the defensive end either, he was lockdown at UCLA.

Rondo is way more crafty but doesn't have the range of Collison. And i digress, Rondo is a much better rebounder than Collison.

I also think in due time Westbrook will also be the better player than Rondo.
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Westbrook is a better defender than Rondo right now.He doesn't have nearly the PG skills and they have about the same range.
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Quit whining, the Celtics bigs were getting all kinds of leeway on defense against the Lakers last night. They were raping Bynum and Gasol in the post and they weren't calling anything. That was an obvious foul and it would have been called with or without Gasol falling down. And if it wasn't called, Allen missed a wide-open layup and Fisher would have gotten the rebound.
I am not whining, so suck my balls? I am not rooting for anyone in this series, as I hate both teams equally. I am just calling it like I see it, I don't need you to tell me ****.
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I am not whining, so suck my balls? I am not rooting for anyone in this series, as I hate both teams equally. I am just calling it like I see it, I don't need you to tell me ****.
Well you obviously can't see dick then.
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One thing I have disagree with is Collison never being a better defender than Rondo. Maybe not as disruptive running around the floor, but Collison will be a better on ball defender and he too has long arms and sick anticipation in the passing lanes.
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I think Rondo's defense is vastly overrated. He benefits way too much from having two beasts down low at all times ready to maul people that go into the lane. He has developed a lot of bad habits that will be exposed once he loses KG, Sheed and Perk. He's great in that team and in that system, but will get abused man-to-man. Great on-ball defenders like Ron Artest and Bruce Bowen are good wherever on the floor they're placed.
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I always laugh when I hear people comparing Rondo as a defender to Gary Payton. Rondo will never be even half as good as a defender than the Glove was. Rondo has amazing hands and crazy quickness, but GP and a guy like Jason Kidd could shut down even SG's. Gary Payton could dominate his opponent on the defensive end. He didn't have to take chances. For Rondo to be effectively defensively he puts his bigs at risk, and is one reason why the Celts have so many foul issues. Russell Westbrook is the guy who reminds me most of Payton all around, though I doubt Westbrook ever develops his skills to be that consistently solid.
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Jason Kidd's defense has always been overrated
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Anyone else think Rajon Rondo's passing is overrated? By "passing" I don't mean his vision or playmaking ability. Rather, I mean his actual accuracy on passes. These playoffs I've noticed a lot of Celtics having to adjust to poorly thrown/wild feeds.
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I agree but I've been spoiled basically my whole life with PGs
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Oh so Pau didn't flop? OK. Nice.
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Oh so Pau didn't flop? OK. Nice.
Did he purposely fall on his back to draw a foul call? No, he didn't. He was fouled and elbowed in the chest and it was clearly a foul before he fell to the ground. I don't know and you don't know whether there was enough strength in Garnett's shove to push him over, but there was a foul.
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they way i see it is there 2 things
- exaggerating a foul
- flopping

to me if you don't exaggerate a foul, a lot of the time you wont get the call. (see Rose, Derrick)

Flopping in turn is making the officials think there was a foul when there clearly was no foul.

in this instance, garnett clearly fouled pau, but without the exaggeration the officials would have either not seen it, not cared or just brushed it off.
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read through this thread from last night:
really, an Yi reference and saying the Globetrotters have a better shot at LBJ and DWade than the Nets? come on guys, what did i do to deserve those?
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No way the Globetrotters have a better shot at a big time FA than the Nets. Maybe Olympiakos, but not the Globetrotters.
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Next year is when Europe crushes the NBA, why would Rubio ever come over if they drop the max contract to 7 mil
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read through this thread from last night:
really, an Yi reference and saying the Globetrotters have a better shot at LBJ and DWade than the Nets? come on guys, what did i do to deserve those?
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THE NETS WILL SIGN LEBRON...AND POSSIBLY STAT!!!!

Also, congrats on the supposed signing of Avery Johnson, scotty!

Btw, it doesn't look like you will become a full time Big XI fan yet. Sad panda. :( We will always have the 2011 NC to look forward to...or 2012, or some year in the future because it will happen.
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Did he purposely fall on his back to draw a foul call? No, he didn't. He was fouled and elbowed in the chest and it was clearly a foul before he fell to the ground. I don't know and you don't know whether there was enough strength in Garnett's shove to push him over, but there was a foul.
He was pushed, and then a second later he fell to the ground in a big heap of agony. I didn't say it wasn't a foul, but it was a hell of a flop. That was my point, that it was a disgraceful flop.
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