NBA Discussion Thread - Page 161

yo123 · 06-27-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fenikz

hell no to trading stat

and

LOL at Bosh better than Stat

Yeah, Bosh is right at Amares level. Dont be a homer. Bosh averaged more points and rebounds than him this year in an offense without Steve Nash.

Brodeur · 06-27-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RoyHall#1

There's this thing called a back-up...

Oh you mean that thing that Shane Battier should be for Team USA.

princefielder28 · 06-27-2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by yo123

Sean Williams averaged 6.3 blocks per 40 min!?

Thats a very impressive stat

RoyHall#1 · 06-27-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

Oh you mean that thing that Shane Battier should be for Team USA.

No that thing Melo should be behind LeBron. You're telling me Shane Battier should be on the team ahead of LBJ? LBJ's fine with taking a distributor role off the bench.

SubNoize · 06-27-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fenikz

I wouldn't mind Lasme, especially if that KG trade goes through

I heard from local news that Phx is trying to land KG still and at the same time are trying to trade up to #8 from Charlotte to land Corey Brewer or Julian Wright, if they pulled that off that team would look even more amazing...

ccB · 06-27-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by yo123

Yeah, Bosh is right at Amares level. Dont be a homer. Bosh averaged more points and rebounds than him this year in an offense without Steve Nash.

Amare is way better than Bosh, why you ask? Because hes a legit Center and Bosh is not. Also Amare is on a team loaded with good players, Bosh is on the Raptors where hes the main guy, thus the reason his stats are inflated more than Stat's. Not to mention the fact that Stoudemire is coming off a serious injury and had the year he did. Fenikz is not being a homer, there is a reason Amare was first team all NBA and Bosh was not.

yo123 · 06-27-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RoyHall#1

No that thing Melo should be behind LeBron. You're telling me Shane Battier should be on the team ahead of LBJ? LBJ's fine with taking a distributor role off the bench.

I doubt Lebron comes off the bench this time around

Flyboy · 06-27-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Charm City Byrdgang

Amare is way better than Bosh, why you ask? Because hes a legit Center and Bosh is not.

Amare is not a legit center. He's a center in the Suns offense, but even then he's not a center. They are both 4's.

ccB · 06-27-2007, 01:21 PM

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Amare is not a legit center. He's a center in the Suns offense, but even then he's not a center. They are both 4's.

Amare has muscle on his bones, Bosh is thin as a rail. Amare would be a C for any team in the league, he is without a doubt the best C in the league. Bosh is a finesse type player where as Amare is a banger inside and can even pull off some of the finesse moves.

Scotty D · 06-27-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SubNoize

I heard from local news that Phx is trying to land KG still and at the same time are trying to trade up to #8 from Charlotte to land Corey Brewer or Julian Wright, if they pulled that off that team would look even more amazing...

Good start for Kerr.

yo123 · 06-27-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Charm City Byrdgang

Amare has muscle on his bones, Bosh is thin as a rail. Amare would be a C for any team in the league, he is without a doubt the best C in the league. Bosh is a finesse type player where as Amare is a banger inside and can even pull off some of the finesse moves.

But Bosh still puts up the same kind of numbers and plays equal or better D.So I dont see why Amare being bigger makes him better

scottyboy · 06-27-2007, 01:24 PM

Bosh needs to be stronger in the paint. He falls in love with his fade away's and just isnt big enough. I mean, Moore handled him pretty well in round 1, because he's just not big enough, strong enough. STAT is a freak of nature, he's ripped and explosive.

SubNoize · 06-27-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by yo123

Yeah, Bosh is right at Amares level. Dont be a homer. Bosh averaged more points and rebounds than him this year in an offense without Steve Nash.

it has nothing to do with Nash, Amare is on a team with multiple offensive weapons, I'm sure if you scaled back some of Raja and Marions shots, Amare would have averaged more points.

yo123 · 06-27-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SubNoize

it has nothing to do with Nash, Amare is on a team with multiple offensive weapons, I'm sure if you scaled back some of Raja and Marions shots, Amare would have averaged more points.

And if Bosh had someone like Nash to feed him the ball in situations where all he had to do is turn and dunk it I'm sure he would average more points as well.

SubNoize · 06-27-2007, 01:29 PM

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Good start for Kerr.

really good start, he'd be getting rid of Marion who disappears in the playoffs and replacing him with a more versatile player in KG. He'd then be trading for Brewer possibly who would allow for Raja to move up to the 3 and get a better shooter/equal defender. It gives Phx more options both inside and out as far as shooting. Even if they ended up w/ Wright, he'd be replacing Marion who seemed to be the person Nash called out for not having enough passion the last 2 years.

ccB · 06-27-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SubNoize

it has nothing to do with Nash, Amare is on a team with multiple offensive weapons, I'm sure if you scaled back some of Raja and Marions shots, Amare would have averaged more points.

Exactly thats what hes not understanding, Bosh has who around him? TJ Ford Andrea Bargnani, Neither of them are going to take the stats away from him that say Shawn Marion, Steve Nash, Leandro Barbosa, Raja Bell, Boris Diaw and even Kurt Thomas would. If you plug Amare in the Raptors line up hes gonna fill the stat sheets up.

SubNoize · 06-27-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by yo123

And if Bosh had someone like Nash to feed him the ball in situations where all he had to do is turn and dunk it I'm sure he would average more points as well.

yes because Steve Nash compensates for 100% of Amare's stats. He helps, but doesn't do it all. TJ Ford is also a very solid young PG, so I think that argument is crap.

ccB · 06-27-2007, 01:31 PM

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And if Bosh had someone like Nash to feed him the ball in situations where all he had to do is turn and dunk it I'm sure he would average more points as well.

Hes got TJ Ford, who is no Steve Nash but is more than capable of distributing the ball. Its more about math than anything, there are more points and rebounds to go around in Toronto than there are in Phoenix. Both are great players, but Amare is just better.

Brodeur · 06-27-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RoyHall#1

No that thing Melo should be behind LeBron. You're telling me Shane Battier should be on the team ahead of LBJ? LBJ's fine with taking a distributor role off the bench.

Melo should be behind LeBron? Haha. Melo was the best player in the FIBA tourney last year.

Flyboy · 06-27-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Charm City Byrdgang

Amare has muscle on his bones, Bosh is thin as a rail. Amare would be a C for any team in the league, he is without a doubt the best C in the league. Bosh is a finesse type player where as Amare is a banger inside and can even pull off some of the finesse moves.

The best C in the league? That's humorous considering he's not really a center, but ookay.

Flyboy · 06-27-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SubNoize

I heard from local news that Phx is trying to land KG still and at the same time are trying to trade up to #8 from Charlotte to land Corey Brewer or Julian Wright, if they pulled that off that team would look even more amazing...

Pretty sure they are targeting Noah more so than Wright.

SubNoize · 06-27-2007, 01:48 PM

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Pretty sure they are targeting Noah more so than Wright.

They wouldn't need to target Noah if they traded for KG w/ the Boston scenario. It would be senseless, Noah just overall to me doesn't fit their scheme and would be a mistake. Wright much better at running the floor and is a much better passer. Neither are great of the dribble but I think Wright has more upside, and he's got a better frame than Noah who needs to fill out more.

ccB · 06-27-2007, 01:49 PM

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The best C in the league? That's humorous considering he's not really a center, but ookay.

How come he is not a C? Because hes not 7'4 and immobile? Whose a better C than him? Yao Ming? I'd disagree. Ben Wallace? youd be a fool to think that. Marcus Camby? noway Dwight Howard? Not yet.

ccB · 06-27-2007, 01:52 PM

I think Corey Brewer is the best bet, NBA ready, plays amazing perimeter d, blocks shots, grabs boards, jumps out of the building. Perfect for the suns style. Hes not R.O.T.Y Jeff Green, but hes damned close.

SubNoize · 06-27-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Charm City Byrdgang

I think Corey Brewer is the best bet, NBA ready, plays amazing perimeter d, blocks shots, grabs boards, jumps out of the building. Perfect for the suns style. Hes not R.O.T.Y Jeff Green, but hes damned close.

Wow, i just heard where the Suns are offering the 24th pick and Kurt Thomas for the 8th pick and Charlotte is actually considering! That would be the biggest Robbery ever! and yes Brewer would be the best fit, I'm just thinking who option 2 would be if he was gone, and i think Julian Wright would be a better fit than Noah. Also heard on local radio that the KG deal is almost a done deal, but still hinges on Celtics extending Marions contract. Minn. would recieve 5th pick AND??? Boris Diaw... Take it for what it's worth, it is a local station. Steve Kerr is genius if this all goes down...