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Old 12-01-2010, 04:58 PM    (permalink
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The Oden/Durant discussion is ridiculous... I'm sure 95% of NBA teams would have taken Oden, his skill level was/is amazing, it's just Durant has flourished being the number one option and not being plagued by injuries. I thought for sure that the Portland/Seattle rivalry would be amazing when these two were in their prime and perennial all stars.
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Umn no when was Oden's skill level ever amazing? His size, athleticism, strength, and length were amazing, but I picked apart his skills pretty thoroughly when he was coming out.
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Umn no when was Oden's skill level ever amazing? His size, athleticism, strength, and length were amazing, but I picked apart his skills pretty thoroughly when he was coming out.
He was an elite defensive big man as a freshman in college. Great hands. Can set picks...he was perfect. Back to the basket game was really underrated.He destroyed that 3 headed mobster of Noah,Horford, Richard...He was probably a better prospect than Dwight Howard and just a notch below LeBron.
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He was an elite defensive big man as a freshman in college. Great hands. Can set picks...he was perfect. Back to the basket game was really underrated.He destroyed that 3 headed mobster of Noah,Horford, Richard...He was probably a better prospect than Dwight Howard and just a notch below LeBron.
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Oden is way to stiff and mechanical offensively to ever have been on the level of Dwight Howard.
Oden's hook at 18-19>>>>>Dwight's offensive repertoire before last year. Oden already had 3 basic post moves(left hand hook, drop step, spin)..and he could have learned so much more. He was bigger and more athletic than Dwight....he was far superior as a prospect, but he was made of glass...=(
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Oden is way to stiff and mechanical offensively to ever have been on the level of Dwight Howard.
until this year Howard's offensive game was a joke. Howard has always been great on the defensive end, and on the glass but hes always been a player that disappeared when he couldnt out muscle the guy guarding him.

He has gotten much much better this year, but until now....his offensive game did not impress me at all.
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He could easily have become David Robinson on the offensive end, and David Robinson won a scoring title, so...
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Hell ******* no. Howard is a freak of nature and remains one of the most explosive players in the league. Oden was a fairly fluid athlete for his size, but he was nowhere near as athletic as Dwight.

When Dwight came out he was pretty much all raw offensive potential with insane rebounding/shot blocking ability. Oden was much more polished than he was (as you mentioned).
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****, the Magic must be short handed tonight...looks like they picked up a homeless man outside the United Center to start at SF.

Oh wait, that's just Vince Carter looking like a hobo.
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until this year Howard's offensive game was a joke. Howard has always been great on the defensive end, and on the glass but hes always been a player that disappeared when he couldnt out muscle the guy guarding him.

He has gotten much much better this year, but until now....his offensive game did not impress me at all.

Somewhat overblown. He didn't have offensive moves necessarily but he was still very productive offensively compared to today's centers. Obviously though you're right to take the next step he needed to develop some moves, and so far it appears that he did that.

And to nixon, hell no Oden was not more athletic than Dwight.

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He could easily have become David Robinson on the offensive end, and David Robinson won a scoring title, so...
See I don't understand the whole Oden could have been David Robsinson. That's like saying Kwame could have been KG. Oden would never have had a Robinson mid range game.
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i could see Oden beeing a guy similar to what Andrew Bynum is for us.....


....but then again its been a long time since ive actually gotten to see either of them play lol
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Isn't Robinson's scoring title the biggest joke on his resume? My memory is kind of fuzzy on this but he scored like 70 in the last game of the season to win it and then got destroyed in the first round of the playoffs as the #1 seed.
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Bulls playing like absolute garbage. Going into the locker room down 25. Blah.

Oh and a 17 to 7 disparity in FTs for Orlando compared to Chicago doesn't help.
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****, the Magic must be short handed tonight...looks like they picked up a homeless man outside the United Center to start at SF.

Oh wait, that's just Vince Carter looking like a hobo.
20 points at the half? Must be some random hobo, VC couldnt do this ****. haha.

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I think people are letting the injury riddled corpse we now know as Greg Oden cloud their judgment on how athletic he was. He was bigger, stronger, and had insane hops when he came out. Dwight's grown a lot without losing a bit of his explosiveness, and that combined with Oden's injuries has skewed a lot of people's perceptions. If they're in the same draft, I think it's a no brainer that Oden goes first. Hell, it probably isn't even that much of a stretch to suggest that if Oden, as a 16 year old, were in Howard's draft, he'd have gone first. The dude has been hyped to no end since he's been out of diapers, pretty much. Best prospect since LeBron.
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No one is questioning his athleticism, it was fantastic, not on Dwight's level but fantastic. I just think his skills were overblown, he had a decent hook shot but never looked fluid or completely sure of him self offensively. He was obviously young and had room to grow but at that time that's how I felt.
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The Heat beat the Pistons!!!! Wooopie freeking doo. I think thats a win streak and that two in a row.
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It was obviously the team meeting.
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Obviously, or it was the Pistons suckage and scoring a whole 9 points in the third quarter.
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