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Old 12-22-2010, 05:53 PM    (permalink
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like the brokest, most homeless version of lamar odom
Yeah, that's actually what I was going to say. He's got the skillset to become a Lamar Odom, but he seems to give even less of a **** than Odom ever has.
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Since I've gotten them once before, and managed to trade up for Rubio 8) I'll recind my request for the knicks.
Perhaps we could co-manage them! That would be fun as I think we have similar ideas in regards to what the Knicks should do.

In other news, I'm quite excited for the Knicks/Thunder game tonight. Should be a good challenge. Here's to hoping Durant doesn't drop 60 on us.
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Perhaps we could co-manage them! That would be fun as I think we have similar ideas in regards to what the Knicks should do.

In other news, I'm quite excited for the Knicks/Thunder game tonight. Should be a good challenge. Here's to hoping Durant doesn't drop 60 on us.
I don't think I'll have the time to do much, I'm making an ad for a local charity once I get back from vacation and then after January I'm producing a trilogy of shorts that we want shot and editted before classes start again on the 23rd (ish). If you want to bounce ideas off of me, I'd be totally down, but I have no idea how much free time I'll have to be on here.

As for the game tonight I can't wait. After that absolute abortion against the Cavs with a light week I think we'll come to play and I expect big games from Amare and Gallo, although you're right that KD will probably go off like a bunker buster. Should be one hell of a game and I'm getting pretty antsy waiting for it to start.
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So I read teams like the Mavs are considering trade for 'Melo for a one year rental... pretty sure that is not a good idea.
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Old 12-22-2010, 07:24 PM    (permalink
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The Kobe is more clutch myth debunked:

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Whoopty ******* doo...


....ill take Kobe 10 out of 10 times with the game on the line, regardless of this article that i wasted my time reading.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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The last time this was brought up I made a point that people are going to remember what they want to remember, especially in a situation like this.
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....ill take Kobe 10 out of 10 times with the game on the line, regardless of this article that i wasted my time reading.
No way! A Lakers fan would take Kobe 10 times out of 10? How surprising..

I'd rather just take the player who's better in clutch time, but that's just me I guess. Personally, I'd like to see these numbers for the entire league, not just LBJ and Bryant. I'm guessing there are players equal to, if not better than both of them.
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No way! A Lakers fan would take Kobe 10 times out of 10? How surprising..

I'd rather just take the player who's better in clutch time, but that's just me I guess. Personally, I'd like to see these numbers for the entire league, not just LBJ and Bryant. I'm guessing there are players equal to, if not better than both of them.
Wow, youre so ******* funny.

As a basketball fan i would take Kobe. Jesus, hes a better shooter, can get to the rim, better free throw shooter, has the killers mentality, i mean to me its not a question.....

....But i mean its gotta because im a Lakers fan.
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Actually Forenci according to the data LeBron has been the clear #1 and Kobe was the clear #2 for the entire league.

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Wow, youre so ******* funny.

As a basketball fan i would take Kobe. Jesus, hes a better shooter, can get to the rim, better free throw shooter, has the killers mentality, i mean to me its not a question.....

....But i mean its gotta because im a Lakers fan.
Yeah, it really is. I'd rather have the player who is proven to be better statistically in late game situations. Not to mention LeBron is better at getting to the rim, can take over games just as easily, if not more (alluding to the 'killer' mentality), etc.

Only thing I like better from Kobe is his ability to hit FT's and shoot from mid-range, but LeBron has improved in both of those areas. If we're talking three point shooting they're almost identical, with LeBron having a slight edge.

So yes, it's because you're a ******* Lakers fan, as you put it.

You can't go wrong with either players in the clutch, but saying it's not a question is silly.
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For what its worth, Id take Kobe late in the game over everyone else every day of the week, without question.
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Fair enough. If I wanted someone to take the last shot of a game I'd probably go with Kobe/Wade/Durant, but if I wanted to overcome a deficit and win late in a game I'd go with James every day of the week.
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Bah, Raps were brutal tonight. A contender should really trade for Barbosa at this point. He would be a great sparkplug off the bench for most teams.
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McGee and Blatche for Washington are absolutely hilarious to watch. They seriously both look like they've never played anything but a pickup game of basketball before.

Also, it's hilarious when Blatche gets the ball and his whole team and the fans start screaming "DON'T DRIBBLE!!!" yet he does anyway and ends up losing the ball or throwing up an off balance shot.
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Sounds like a fine idea to me. Dirk isn't going to play at this level forever and J-Kidd is like 430 years old. Why not go all in? They aren't going to beat the Lakers as is.
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Wow. Washington down 7 shoots a 3 with like 20 seconds left, instead of going for the rebound the other 4 guys just start walking/jogging toward their bench at the other end like the game was over and Bulls easily grab the board and win. Great mentality, guys.

Bulls played like mostly crap and Derrick had a not so hot night (for him). But I love having Boozer...man do I love it.
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The Kobe is more clutch myth debunked:

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Thank God someone is willing to look beyond highlight reels and towards empirical evidence.
That article just regurgitates the same argument we had before all stemming from "82games.com"

In actuality, there's no clear definition for the word clutch. The thresholds they came up with "5 minutes" is a very arbitrary number. What significance does 5 minutes have over 4 minutes over 3 minutes etc.?
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Also, here's another question... THEORETICALLY, if Kobe wins 8+ rings... will he be considered even a better player than MJ?

I'm not being a homer, the numbers don't lie and MJ is clearly statistically better but as perception what do you think?

Guards these days don't usually have the ability to carry a team to that many championships...
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my friend just got flipped off by Durant for yelling look at th scoreboard lol.
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i still think Rip is a damn good player...it's just...that contract. EWWWW
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