NBA Discussion Thread - Page 2295

Brodeur · 07-06-2011, 11:39 PM

That was the greatest moment of my life.

WMD · 07-06-2011, 11:40 PM

OH MY ******* GOD

Nalej · 07-07-2011, 10:03 AM

^^^ I don't understand. What's the fuss?

Brodeur · 07-07-2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nalej

^^^ I don't understand. What's the fuss?

You just don't understand. He's too amazing for words.

bearsfan_51 · 07-07-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zycho32

So apparently Joe Johnson has a gold-painted MONSTER of a truck that supposedly carries up to 200 gallons of diesel fuel and costs somewhere in the vicinity of 200k, if not more.

That kind of expenditure is a pretty good microcosm to explain why the players may very well start taking it in the rear at the negotiating table if this lockout continues. That or carpet-bomb the European Leagues and sink them with all their collective weight.

Wrong.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...0Silver&st=cse

Now, will many players capitulate because they are totally incapable of saving money? Sure.

Jamaal-Football · 07-07-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Wrong.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...0Silver&st=cse

Now, will many players capitulate because they are totally incapable of saving money? Sure.

Yep, there has been a run of articles recently being released recently showing how owners are claiming their losses twice. So based on ancient tax laws, they're not really losing money at all, in fact the average team owner is making $6M annually.

EvilNixon · 07-07-2011, 01:16 PM

Y'all musta forgot.

SativaDominant · 07-07-2011, 01:17 PM

What the NBA needs is ******* revenue sharing instead of trying to pass off their costs onto their employees. I understand there are a lot of bad contracts in the NBA, but no player put a gun to an owner's head and forced them to offer a ridiculous contract.

That's why I've never understood salary caps/labor cost control in sports. The owners implement them to save themselves from their own stupid decision making and then immediately begin trying to subvert and manipulate the rules they implement. Makes no sense to me.

descendency · 07-07-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SativaDominant

What the NBA needs is ******* revenue sharing instead of trying to pass off their costs onto their employees.

So you can have the Pittsburgh Pirates in the NBA? Leagues that have revenue sharing have irrelevant teams that just leach off of everyone else to make money.

descendency · 07-07-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

Wrong.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...0Silver&st=cse

Now, will many players capitulate because they are totally incapable of saving money? Sure.

Except broke players can play euroball. The NBA is screwed.

SativaDominant · 07-07-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by descendency

So you can have the Pittsburgh Pirates in the NBA? Leagues that have revenue sharing have irrelevant teams that just leach off of everyone else to make money.

So the NFL should get rid of revenue sharing then? Should they stop sharing the TV contract equally and start having teams sign regional deals? Should the NFL stop splitting gate receipts 60/40 between the home and away teams? Should they stop splitting the revenue for merchandising?

Here's the problem with a lack of revenue sharing that nobody seems to understand: when a large market teams pull in massive amounts of revenue (like the Lakers and Knicks) they raise the OPERATING COSTS of everyone else - mostly by raising the salary cap floor. They're essentially passing off cost while keeping all revenue.

The NBA has no revenue sharing, and they still have teams that slash payroll in order to turn a profit instead of paying to stay competitive. Just look at the Warriors, Bobcats, and Clippers. The Pirates modus operandi would likely stay the same whether there were revenue sharing in baseball or not. You're trying to find causation where there's just correlation. There are bad owners who slash payroll in every major sports league.

LonghornsLegend · 07-07-2011, 04:33 PM

I could very easily see Deron playing ball overseas, that really wouldn't surprise me at all. I can't believe the NBA is gonna find a way to screw this up after the popularity they gained after this last season.

Jamaal-Football · 07-07-2011, 04:39 PM

Having big name All-Stars like Deron Williams finding jobs overseas should light a fire under the NBA's ass that they need to end the lockout in timely fashion. I, for one, don't give a **** if everyone and their mother went to play in Europe, but the owners should. And that alone should give them a ton of leverage in negotiations, especially since it has come out that they aren't losing as much money as they claim to be losing.

YAYareaRB · 07-07-2011, 05:11 PM

I'm outta the loop but DWill is playing in Turkey? nice! guys like DWill just want to play

Jamaal-Football · 07-07-2011, 05:25 PM

Yes, DWill is in fact, a turkey.

Srsly though, he has a $5M agreement with a Turkish team that would allow him to immediately opt out once the NBA labor agreements were finalized. Good for him. Get that paper.

YAYareaRB · 07-07-2011, 05:29 PM

ahemwhatareyoutalkingaboutahem

scottyboy · 07-07-2011, 06:07 PM

so DWill is all like, yo NBA, I'm gonna go play in turkey. figure **** out fast so me and D12 can run **** in brooklyn. but for now, i'm gonna go instantly be the best player on another continent.

YAYareaRB · 07-07-2011, 06:18 PM

Dwill is like, yo NBA, get yo **** together homie

niel89 · 07-07-2011, 06:22 PM

No good reason not to go play overseas right now. You get good money, fans who will love you and you get to see more of the world. Its better than just sitting at home until they work this stuff out.