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Old 12-01-2011, 04:57 PM    (permalink
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Lol, NO has no one to blame but themselves. That has been a pretty below average team for years now. What exactly have they done to try and better themselves and the team around Paul? He gave you six years of his career, if the best guy you could put next to was David West, then you're **** outta luck. He deserves to win and be on a competitive team, that was not gonna happen in NO. I'm glad these **** franchises lose their players, they don't deserve them.
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If the league just wants teams with superstar players just fold organizations like New Orleans, Charlotte, Sacramento, Milwaukee, Toronto, Golden State, Minnesota, and maybe even Indiana. Just have nothing but big markets.
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Yeah. The league is fatally flawed. I thought they'd fix it with the new CBA, but looks like they didn't.

The NBA doesn't want parity unfortunately.
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Lol, NO has no one to blame but themselves. That has been a pretty below average team for years now. What exactly have they done to try and better themselves and the team around Paul? He gave you six years of his career, if the best guy you could put next to was David West, then you're **** outta luck. He deserves to win and be on a competitive team, that was not gonna happen in NO. I'm glad these **** franchises lose their players, they don't deserve them.
I really can't argue there. The biggest mistake the Hornets made was not selling when his value was high and they had Darren Collison and Marcus Thornton. I was a proponent then of trading CP3 to bring in some young players to build around their young core but they decided to risk all by building around Chris Paul. The problem with that is the lack of an owner, so therefore no direction from the top, being hamstrung by being owned by the NBA, and having a poor general manager.

The Hornets really are in disarray and unless they can get something, ANYTHING out of trading him now then that's what they need to do to at least try and stay somewhat relevant.
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Yeah. The league is fatally flawed. I thought they'd fix it with the new CBA, but looks like they didn't.

The NBA doesn't want parity unfortunately.
Why would they want that, and how could they expect that? The league is over-expanded and the talent diluted as is.
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Inb4 Kevin Love goes to the Lakers and Derrick Williams goes to the Celtics. The NBA can go back to being locked out. A bunch of greedy ******* who all want the spotlight. Just go to a four team league with Boston, New York, Miami and Los Angeles.
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None of this ever would have happened if Minnesota hadn't tried to sign Joe Smith early. It is all because of that.
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Have fun this year ******* because Dwight Howard will play out his contract and then sign a mega-deal to play with the next great NBA PG Mr John "Jimmy" Wall in the Nations capital

The Verizon center aka "The Phonebooth" is where Clark Kent aka Dwight Howard will turn into Superman everynight.

But really, deep draft class next year, wiz will prob be a lottery team, land a top 3 pick and I'm sure Mr Howard would love to play with Wall and say Harrison Barnes, would be one of the top young trios in the league and we will have the money with Shard coming off the books.

BTW Knicks will land CP3 then get sent home 2nd round of the playoffs because they are soft as **** defensively.
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In the East? I think CP3/Melo/Stat make them a pretty much lock for a top three seed on a yearly basis, and after that it's a race to the ECF. Rose and the Bulls will suffer, honestly, because despite their great defense, i don't think they'd be able to keep up with that team.
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If the Magic say no to that, then they'd be stupid. It's the best deal theyd get for a player that won't even be on their team anymore at season's end.
They'd be stupid to take that deal. Bynum is NEVER healthy and Pau showed last year in the playoffs that he's a dead beat nearing the end of his productive career.

The Magic can get younger talent. Hell, NJ can offer more with Lopez alone.
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They'd be stupid to take that deal. Bynum is NEVER healthy and Pau showed last year in the playoffs that he's a dead beat nearing the end of his productive career.

The Magic can get younger talent. Hell, NJ can offer more with Lopez alone.
He's not a dead beat. He is a little *****, there is a huge difference here (basically the opposite of his absolute bad ass and handsome brother).
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Small market owners have no one to blame but themselves. This is exactly why they should've held the line longer than they did and refused to sign an agreement that didn't make tangible competitive and economic concessions. From what I've heard so far, the system hasn't changed much and, if anything, only encourages more player movement. Sure, the severity of the penalty for going over the cap has been raised. But guess what? Big market owners have deep pockets. And a keen understanding that championships and consistent contendership increases the market value of their respective franchises. Nothing in the new CBA will deter big-time franchises from spending to build a team comprised of superstars. It's just the way the NBA is gravitating toward these days. Most of its premier talent is concentrated in dense media pockets across the country, leaving its lesser markets to rely heavily on youth movements or catching lightning in a bottle and simply riding it as far as it takes you, a la the Thunder or Grizzlies. As a small market franchise in a league with a soft cap, you're looking at an uphill battle to retain your homegrown superstars, unless they're reasonably unique individuals. And the NBA is a superstar-driven league. So the rich got richer.

Along those lines, New Orleans and Orlando would be foolish to hold onto Chris Paul or Dwight Howard. It's certainly unfortunate, but it's the harsh reality given the current environment. Chris Paul is a fierce competitor that wants to win. New Orleans doesn't have a special collection of talent. But he has two buddies that play for a storied team on the upswing in a giant media market with room for a third. Dwight Howard feels he has carried Orlando as far as he can and wants to pursue an acting career. And, look at that, there's two Los Angeles teams will do whatever they can to woo him there.
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I just want Howard to leave the Magic already. The sooner the better. He'll actually have a chance to win somewhere else.
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He's not a dead beat. He is a little *****, there is a huge difference here (basically the opposite of his absolute bad ass and handsome brother).
And i don't get what is so great about Brook Lopez when he's just as much of a little ***** as Pau Gasol is. A 7 footer that can't rebound is just pathetic.
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His brother is Marc Gasol not Brook Lopez...
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And i don't get what is so great about Brook Lopez when he's just as much of a little ***** as Pau Gasol is. A 7 footer that can't rebound is just pathetic.
Pau is much tougher than Brook when he isn't whining about marital problems.
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I know the difference between Marc Gasol and Brook Lopez. Go back and read what D said about not wanting Pau cause he's soft, but he would prefer Lopez.
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I am wondering if the Bulls makes a run at Roy if he is let go, that would be an interesting fit even if he only plays 18 minutes a year.
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What's with the hate on Ricky Stanzi? Those youtube clips of him with the hulk hogan theme music instantly make him better than Luck.
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Anyone wanna play in a serious fantasy basketball league?
I will join.
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it has begun:

Chris Paul's agent seeks trade

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