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Old 12-12-2011, 01:57 AM    (permalink
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Well, it's pretty obvious that Dwight did let him do his job, and he did an absolutely awful one. Seriously, just about every move he made the past couple of years were bad. Would it have really hurt this team to throw Dwight a bone and get a few of his friends on the team? It couldn't have possibly ended worse, and at the very least, Dwight would be happy. He may be acting immature, but Otis Smith deserves all the blame here. He had seven years to make a team for Dwight, and he epic failed. Otis Smith will be the reason the Orlando Magic will be in the cellar of irrelevancy for the next decade again.
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agreed. i think it's more about the rotation of players you put him with than anything, and how his skill set compliments that group. also, the lakers didn't really have a choice but to make him play 6th man. he's not exactly the ideal guy to guard a 3
He's one of the best 3/4 tweeners the league has seen the last two decades. He can definitely guard the 3 and the 4, but i'd use him more at the 3 spot to use his ability in the perimeter. I don't think he should be a 6th man again because he's an incredibly efficient rebounder. The more time he's on the floor, the better.
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Anyone see Dwight speak? He doesnt have the greatest relationship with Otis Smith at all these days. He was really pissed off when we traded away C Lee and Lewis. And he's more recently even more pissed that Arenas got the amnesty clause. Arenas also stated that he's going to sign with whoever lands Dwight. Howard's apparently been asking for trades to get his "friends" to Orlando for years. Otis Smith has not always agreed to these potential moves, however. Saying many of his suggestions were duplicates of players they already had, or just made no sense. So Dwight's just really fed up that he doesnt have more say or power in team personel decisions. hmmm. Dwight even called these buddies of his "nothing special", average guys. He just really wanted to play with his friends. I really do think Howard sounds a little silly in all of this. Even though he denies it, he essentially is looking to have free reign and play GM whenever he pleases. I certainly agree with him, in the thought that Smith should have involved him more on the trades they actually did make...but I also dont really agree with Dwight constantly trying to push the organization to add his buddies to the team, just for the hell of it.

Dwight's a good kid...but he's always come off as an immature dude. Seems like he's just doing a lot of pouting right now.
Dwight doesn't sound like a competitor to me. Why not push for guys that you think can help you win and not your admittedly average buddies? Sounds pretty childish. Granted we don't know the whole story so he might have done that too, he just seems like the kind of guy who just wants to **** around and have fun over actually winning games. Like a likable Lebron in that way.

But really Otis has no one to blame but himself. I can't think of many who have ****** up a superstar's stay more than him.
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It's not based on the other team, it's based on your role within your own team. The idea is that Odom comes in when guys like Gasol, Bynum or Kobe are out and picks up the offensive slack. So he plays a large part of his minutes whilst they rest to try and keep the offense ticking over. A guy like Odom is ideal in that role because of his ability to spell multiple players and to initiate an offense. It doesn't mean he can't be an effective starter or even that he might not produce bigger numbers as a starter, just that his value is greatest in that role(as far as the coaches are concerned anyway).

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This might be what allows the Magic to keep Dwight. Arenas has to be about as big a disincentive for a team to trade for Dwight as you will find.

Really though Dwight is just sounding like an idiot. Lets be honest, Otis is an awful GM but Dwight would be even worse. Amnestying Arenas is just about the best basketball move Orlando has made since drafting Dwight. That trade was awful and we got an awful cancerous player as a result and now we don't have him and he isn't counting against our awful cap.

It's the first time our management has seemingly noticed that they have ****** it all up and made a move to fix it.

If the guys he misses are any indication then Dwight really shouldn't be involved at all in management. It's nice if you have a player like a Duncan who can be involved in that stuff and make good choices, Dwight sounds like the opposite. Makes you wonder how many of these awful moves we've made are related to trying to keep Dwight happy, because we flat out haven't made a good move in forever and if Dwight is handcuffing the team then maybe it's time he goes.
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It's not based on the other team, it's based on your role within your own team. The idea is that Odom comes in when guys like Gasol, Bynum or Kobe are out and picks up the offensive slack. So he plays a large part of his minutes whilst they rest to try and keep the offense ticking over. A guy like Odom is ideal in that role because of his ability to spell multiple players and to initiate an offense. It doesn't mean he can't be an effective starter or even that he might not produce bigger numbers as a starter, just that his value is greatest in that role(as far as the coaches are concerned anyway).

And that was basically what Marion's Role was before Butler got hurt. Now that we have Odom it's based on who's the better player and Odom gets the nod and Marion becomes the person he was all season and what you said. And with Vince Carter likely to be a Maverick too is what and Marion would be doing off the bench.
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It's not based on the other team, it's based on your role within your own team. The idea is that Odom comes in when guys like Gasol, Bynum or Kobe are out and picks up the offensive slack. So he plays a large part of his minutes whilst they rest to try and keep the offense ticking over. A guy like Odom is ideal in that role because of his ability to spell multiple players and to initiate an offense. It doesn't mean he can't be an effective starter or even that he might not produce bigger numbers as a starter, just that his value is greatest in that role(as far as the coaches are concerned anyway).



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Right. So in Dallas, where they need a strong secondary offensive player, he will be more effective as a starter, or at least more effective and valuable than Shawn Marion is. Marion was fine coming off the bench last year, he's past his prime as a starter but can still be effective playing against second team guys. Odom is needed with the starting squad.

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This might be what allows the Magic to keep Dwight. Arenas has to be about as big a disincentive for a team to trade for Dwight as you will find.

Really though Dwight is just sounding like an idiot. Lets be honest, Otis is an awful GM but Dwight would be even worse. Amnestying Arenas is just about the best basketball move Orlando has made since drafting Dwight. That trade was awful and we got an awful cancerous player as a result and now we don't have him and he isn't counting against our awful cap.

It's the first time our management has seemingly noticed that they have ****** it all up and made a move to fix it.

If the guys he misses are any indication then Dwight really shouldn't be involved at all in management. It's nice if you have a player like a Duncan who can be involved in that stuff and make good choices, Dwight sounds like the opposite. Makes you wonder how many of these awful moves we've made are related to trying to keep Dwight happy, because we flat out haven't made a good move in forever and if Dwight is handcuffing the team then maybe it's time he goes
He's pissed and has basically inferred that none of those moves were of his choice. That's why he's upset. The **** moves are all on Otis Smith.
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Well, it's pretty obvious that Dwight did let him do his job, and he did an absolutely awful one. Seriously, just about every move he made the past couple of years were bad. Would it have really hurt this team to throw Dwight a bone and get a few of his friends on the team? It couldn't have possibly ended worse, and at the very least, Dwight would be happy. He may be acting immature, but Otis Smith deserves all the blame here. He had seven years to make a team for Dwight, and he epic failed. Otis Smith will be the reason the Orlando Magic will be in the cellar of irrelevancy for the next decade again.


Otis is at a lot of fault, yes. He did a fantastic job of building this team up to the point where they made the finals. He made a lot of great personel decisions. But since then, he's been making moves, just to make moves it seems. Dwight was unaware of the team's intent on a lot of those trades, and that was some bad decision making on the organization's part. But on the same token, it doesnt help that Dwight was constantly trying to make his own moves and essentially run the organization, himself. The whole thing reeks of poor player/management communication. And this is actually a repeat in history for Orlando, and I mean T-Mac, not Shaq. Dwight comes off as a big ole man child, a boy...who pouts when he doesnt get his way. And Otis Smith is this proud, know it all, maverick of sorts. It's just a mess. I'm ready to move on from all of it.
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Otis is at a lot of fault, yes. He did a fantastic job of building this team up to the point where they made the finals. He made a lot of great personel decisions. But since then, he's been making moves, just to make moves it seems. Dwight was unaware of the team's intent on a lot of those trades, and that was some bad decision making on the organization's part. But on the same token, it doesnt help that Dwight was constantly trying to make his own moves and essentially run the organization, himself. The whole thing reeks of poor player/management communication. And this is actually a repeat in history for Orlando, and I mean T-Mac, not Shaq. Dwight comes off as a big ole man child, a boy...who pouts when he doesnt get his way. And Otis Smith is this proud, know it all, maverick of sorts. It's just a mess. I'm reading to move on from all of it.
Which is why i completely blame Otis. A lot of those moves, were at the very best, lateral. The Shard deal was horrendous for the organization. Just absolutely crippling. But you're right that the combination of Howard wanting to be a little too involved and Otis being a selfish prick was just bound to blow up sooner or later. At least it didn't turn out like AJ Smith in San Diego, in that he actually hits on a move once in a while and it just feeds the absolutely wrong idea he has that he's some GM God.
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Which is why i completely blame Otis. A lot of those moves, were at the very best, lateral. The Shard deal was horrendous for the organization. Just absolutely crippling. But you're right that the combination of Howard wanting to be a little too involved and Otis being a selfish prick was just bound to blow up sooner or later. At least it didn't turn out like AJ Smith in San Diego, in that he actually hits on a move once in a while and it just feeds the absolutely wrong idea he has that he's some GM God.
The thing is, even though there is this Otis Smith/Arenas connection. Arenas and Howard are like the best of friends. It's hard to really know, who wanted that trade more. That said, Dwight was mad when Lewis was the one who was moved. Even though, that's pretty much the only way you would have gotten Arenas' useless ass. Dwight may as well be an arm chair GM, because the players on his "list" havent really been anything special that would propel the Magic any further. So he's happy, but he's surrounded by mediocrity, anyway. Yay, we landed Glen Davis, Stephen Jackson, and Anthony Morrow off of Dwight's list. Championship. He may think that playing with his pals, and winning come hand and hand...but that's not necessarily true. And jotting down your buddies names on a list, is a little different than actually executing these trades also. He also wanted guys like Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Josh Smith, Monta Ellis, and Iggy...but really, there was no way to actually acquire such players.
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The beginning of the end was Otis blowing his wad for Rashard Lewis. Once Dwight leaves, you can make the argument that the Lewis contract was the reason the Magic franchise was destroyed for as long as it will be in shambles. Bringing in Arenas was just the gravy on top, it seemed like a lateral move at the time, but that extra 24 million is A LOT. It caused such a huge constraint on the ability to make big moves, forcing their hand to make smaller, higher risk moves.

Look at the Knicks, they saw the Lebron free agency looming years in advance and did their best to prep for it. Yeah they may not have ended up with the big prize, but they cleared themselves of all their bad contracts and brought in talented, productive free agents. Smith kept trying to fix a broken team, and all it did was just break it some more.
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Look at the Knicks, they saw the Lebron free agency looming years in advance and did their best to prep for it. Yeah they may not have ended up with the big prize, but they cleared themselves of all their bad contracts and brought in talented, productive free agents. Smith kept trying to fix a broken team, and all it did was just break it some more.
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Hornets and Clips are nearing a deal that would send Kaman, Bledsoe, Aminu, and Minny's 2012 1st rounder to NOLA for CP3.

Clips might be pretty good next year: CP3, Gordon, Butler, Griffin, Jordan
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I wonder if we go after a center we can't possibly just rely on Haywood the entire season. Any news of Nene?
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Paul/Gordon/Blake/Jordan would make me a Clippers supporter on principle alone. That would be a damn good lineup, especially with Gordon's development. I'm really hoping that trade goes down.
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Hornets and Clips are nearing a deal that would send Kaman, Bledsoe, Aminu, and Minny's 2012 1st rounder to NOLA for CP3.

Clips might be pretty good next year: CP3, Gordon, Butler, Griffin, Jordan
It's now being reported that it's Eric Gordon and not Eric Bledsoe.
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Dallas isn't going to re-sign Barea?
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Who plays the 2 for the Clips?
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Revised trade by Yahoo's Woj has said it's now Bledsoe and not Gordon.

Hornets will be getting Bledsoe, Kaman, Aminu, Minnesota's 1st for CP3.
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I know Chris Broussard isn't all that reliable but he's saying the Clipps are sending Gordon in the deal. Just don't want his name out in the public til it's accepted.
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I know Chris Broussard isn't all that reliable but he's saying the Clipps are sending Gordon in the deal. Just don't want his name out in the public til it's accepted.
Woj would have known this. But it does make sense. How in the hell are Kaman, Bledsoe and Aminu the type of marketable stars that make the trade acceptable, but Odom, Scola and Martin are not? Gordon almost has to be in it for that reason.
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Per a source who has been briefed on NO-LAC negotiations, the Hornets have to choose between the Minnesota pick and Gordon. Can't have both.

Per Chris Broussard: Sources say in addition to Bledsoe, league asking for another pick from Minny. Stern is trying to make this impossible.
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Agreed. Apparently the front office doesn't want to piss Gordon off, in case the deal doesn't pass.

Nobody wants to buy a team full of garbage. It's gonna suck being a hornets fan without CP3 but getting Gordon would make me buy tickets.
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Yay we have a guard. Barea to the Wolves.
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Ughhhhhh, no Gordon, please. Leave him on the Clips, he is just gonna leave once his contract is up anyway. I don't think it's worth it if you give up Eric Gordon.
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