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Old 12-15-2011, 11:35 AM    (permalink
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Carl Landry has accepted the Hornets offer and will return
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According to Marc Stein the deal for Landry is for 1 year $9 million
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He's a good player, I just dont think he's great. 22-4-3 in 38 mins with average percentages and good defense is nice, something id take on my team, but not something that makes me think of him as a top 3 SG. He definitely has the potential to be one, but I dont know, he just doesnt excite me for some reason. It's pretty irrational I admit, and pairing him with a top lottery pick, Aminu, and Kaman's contract makes it a great deal for NOLA, I just dont think theres much of a gap at all between Gordon and Martin as far as talent goes. At least not right now.
I generally agree. The absolute dearth of good SGs league-wide has artificially inflated the perception of Gordon, IMO.
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I generally agree. The absolute dearth of good SGs league-wide has artificially inflated the perception of Gordon, IMO.
You can say the same thing about Dwight Howard.
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You can say the same thing about Dwight Howard.
You could, and I wouldn't disagree. Same for Bynum's "potential."

How valuable is Dwight in the mid-90s, with Shaq, Hakeem, David Robinson, Patrick Ewing? He becomes a rich-man's Mutombo. That's nothing to scoff at, but it's a far cry from "best center in the NBA, hands down."

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I actually like that move for Portland, as long as they plan on keeping him as a 6th man.
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Those ******* were supposed to take Stuckey from us. Maybe.
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I was just about to post this. Thank god we don't have to see that back court. We really need to get a veteran SF like AK47, not sure who else is out there though that can actually make an impact.
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I generally agree. The absolute dearth of good SGs league-wide has artificially inflated the perception of Gordon, IMO.
Is there any position there isn't a dearth of right now? Seems like once you get beyond a "top 5" at any position (or in the case of centers, top 1) you get a whole lot of blah and meh.

The talent pool is just too diluted.
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Geez, sometimes i'm glad that there's at least other teams to keep the Kings from choking themselves. I have no idea why they were even pursuing Chucker McGee over there.
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You know what sucks?

When your team creates a lot of cap space by trading away a top PG and some good young talent, and then uses it to sign two guys to bad contracts, and they continue to not deserve their contracts, and they continue to be on your team because nobody else wants to trade for their ridiculous contracts, and they never proved your GM right, but he doesn't want to ditch them because it would mean admitting that he made a dumb move that he never should have made and everybody knew he shouldn't have made it when he did.

That is what sucks.
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Has Joe Dumars done anything right? Aside from trading for Rasheed Wallace and having that championship team fall to his lap, has he done anything of merit to keep his job? I can't remember the last good move he made, why is he still employed?
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Has Joe Dumars done anything right? Aside from trading for Rasheed Wallace and having that championship team fall to his lap, has he done anything of merit to keep his job? I can't remember the last good move he made, why is he still employed?
To be fair, the team didn't so much fall into his lap as it was entirely built by him.
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Is there any position there isn't a dearth of right now? Seems like once you get beyond a "top 5" at any position (or in the case of centers, top 1) you get a whole lot of blah and meh.

The talent pool is just too diluted.
I also agree with this, which is why I'm heavily in favor of contraction.

The Bulls didn't win 72 games in 1996 because they were the best team ever. Hell, they weren't even the best Bulls team of the Jordan era. They caught the league at just the right time - when the talent pool had just become too diluted and over-expanded.

Shooting guard and center are some especially bad positions in the league right now, though. After you get past Kobe and Wade...what is there, really?

Part of the problem with the position, IMO, is the "Jordan" factor. Too many young, undersized point guards gowing up trying to be Like Mike and end up in combo-guard no-man's land.

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I also agree with this, which is why I'm heavily in favor of contraction.

The Bulls didn't win 72 games in 1996 because they were the best team ever. Hell, they weren't even the best Bulls team of the Jordan era. They caught the league at just the right time - when the talent pool had just become too diluted and over-expanded.
It's also contributing to the stars demanding to go where they want trend. They realize that if you get at two star players together, odds are good that you'll be in championship contention.

The Heat are quite honestly an awful "team." I don't think anyone would disagree with this. But if you have Lebron or Wade get on a tear, you can dominate just about any other team with those two freakish stars.

You and I could be on the floor with those guys and if they get on a tear, no one is going to stop them.

There is becoming less and less of a point to building a team. If you want to compete, step 1 is to acquire two stars. Preferably complimentary stars, but it doesn't really matter. Add role players here and there when you can and bam, championship contender.

Contract a bit, and suddenly every team will have 1-2 "star" players at least. Games will be better and demanding trades to only a select few teams will be less relevant to overall success.
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Has Joe Dumars done anything right? Aside from trading for Rasheed Wallace and having that championship team fall to his lap, has he done anything of merit to keep his job? I can't remember the last good move he made, why is he still employed?
He is pretty good at finding players after the lottery, such as Tayshaun Prince, Arron Afflalo, Jason Maxiell, Jonas Jerebko, Mehmet Okur, Amir Johnson, and Carlos Delfino is solid.

But constant coaching changes, signing Rip to a bad extension, signing Gordon/Villanueva, trading Chauncey, and giving Afflalo and Amir away, are all good reasons to can him. He hasn't made a trade since July 2009. Some of that can be attributed to the ownership change, but still.. It's no good.
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I actually wouldn't be mad at the Hornets for taking Stuckey off the Piston's hands
You guys would have to sign him to something better than 5 Years/$40-45 Million.. because supposedly that's what we're offering him and he's not taking it.
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Earl Clark re-signed with Orlando. Yay. 2 Year deal.
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