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Old 06-07-2012, 10:55 PM    (permalink
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I disagree. I could easily see the Heat taking their foot off the gas and starting sluggishly.
I can't imagine any scenario where they take their foot off the gas in a game seven to go to the finals. They're pissed that they lost at home in a crucial game five, it isn't surprising that they game out guns blazing today. For as much **** as i give Lebron and Wade, they aren't COMPLETELY spineless, either. They know what this means in terms of their legacies, i'm positive they'll play the same way they did tonight in game seven.
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Haha yeah they probably said that already, its true though.
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They just said it now, so you're ahead of them at least.
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How do you define best player though? for example, what if you have a player that averages 2 points but 30 rebounds a game, would be discredited from the "best player in the league?

Cause yeah James is the better passer than Durant, but they both haven't won yet, Lebron has 3 mvps while Durant has 3 scoring titles. Durant comes up big late in games, while Lebron doesn't etc.
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How do you define best player though? for example, what if you have a player that averages 2 points but 30 rebounds a game, would be discredited from the "best player in the league?
best "all-around" player. someone scoring 2ppg would obviously be the best rebounder, not the best player
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How do you define best player though? for example, what if you have a player that averages 2 points but 30 rebounds a game, would be discredited from the "best player in the league?
Or what if a guy averages 30 points and game and is also the best all around defender in the league?
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JVG needs to stop talking because Wade has been useless
Dwayne Wade shoots 33% and plays like **** all game long and is praised. When Lebron goes for 40 but misses a shot with 5 seconds left, he's crucified. I don't like James, but he takes way to much **** from people while Wade gets a free pass.
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You kinda ask for that when you're the self proclaimed "chosen one". He does get more **** than anyone else in the league, but his attitude has encouraged that reaction from fans.
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Or what if a guy averages 30 points and game and is also the best all around defender in the league?
debatable.

What if Durant wins a title this year and Lebron doesn't, does that change anything?
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You kinda ask for that when you're the self proclaimed "chosen one". He does get more **** than anyone else in the league, but his attitude has encouraged that reaction from fans.
yeah. people need to stop acting like every single person and fan has just decided to pick on a player at random for no reason.
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You kinda ask for that when you're the self proclaimed "chosen one". He does get more **** than anyone else in the league, but his attitude has encouraged that reaction from fans.
I'm not disagreeing that he comes off as the most pompous assholes in all of sports. But fans get too caught up in the fact that he doesn't always come through in the final seconds (Wade is no better really) and ignore that he is far and away the best all-around player in the league.
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You kinda ask for that when you're the self proclaimed "chosen one". He does get more **** than anyone else in the league, but his attitude has encouraged that reaction from fans.
It really shouldn't. His production is his production. I don't like him but why should it affect his perception as a player? It should affect his perception as a person sure but not as a player.
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I'm not disagreeing that he comes off as the most pompous assholes in all of sports. But fans get too caught up in the fact that he doesn't always come through in the final seconds (Wade is no better really) and ignore that he is far and away the best all-around player in the league.
I'm pretty sure everyone acknowledges how great he is. He has three MVPs for god's sake, he isn't necessarily going under the radar. He has been rewarded and heralded as the greatest player (some even say ever) for quite some time now. He gets the **** he does because he deserves it. I don't care if he puts up 60/15/10 if his team loses and he misses the final shot constantly. It means nothing. It's the Peyton Manning argument.
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debatable.

What if Durant wins a title this year and Lebron doesn't, does that change anything?
A title doesn't change the fact that offensively, Lebron is every bit (and probably a bit more) the threat Durant is while being the best defender in the league.
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debatable.

What if Durant wins a title this year and Lebron doesn't, does that change anything?
Durant will be considered the NBA's best player (assuming he plays that way in the finals)

as for Lebron...

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I'm not disagreeing that he comes off as the most pompous assholes in all of sports. But fans get too caught up in the fact that he doesn't always come through in the final seconds (Wade is no better really) and ignore that he is far and away the best all-around player in the league.
of course he's the best all-around player in the league. He's bigger and faster than everybody else. His offensive game is still limited though. He had an amazing game but his jump shooting and threes are still inconsistent and pressure D still affects him.
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Isn't this 'Let's go Celtics' chant just a collective 'Good job, good effort'?
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The sad thing about this game is you can't even say Good Job! Good Effort! to this boston team, it'd be a damn lie.
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Isn't this 'Let's go Celtics' chant just a collective 'Good job, good effort'?
They're committed fans!!!!
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hey everybody draftguru is playing the 'hater' card

NOBODY BELIEVED IN US!

WE'RE THE UNDERDOGS!
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hey everybody draftguru is playing the 'hater' card

NOBODY BELIEVED IN US!

WE'RE THE UNDERDOGS!
Just taking on the persona of my team baby!!!

That's why BBD is being a douche in here right?
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Just taking on the persona of my team baby!!!

That's why BBD is being a douche in here right?
actually don't know if those are related
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:25 PM    (permalink
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did anyone see that fan hit dwayne wade with the ball? if that was intentional he shouldve been kicked out and given a year ban.
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Guess my team. Ow my knee, I have to retire. Ok, go.
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