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Old 07-07-2012, 12:41 PM    (permalink
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The point i'm trying to get across is that the Heat are better when they don't have an actual 5 on the floor.
Yeah but you still need a Center. Their small lineup is their best lineup, but you can't play 4 quarters for an entire season like that. You need a big body in the middle.
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And while I do like Nash to the Lakers, I also feel that it's a somewhat overrated signing.

The Lakers biggest issue at PG was their inability to DEFEND other PGs. How does Steve Nash solve that? Hmmm?
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Obviously. But i'm almost positive that in the biggest moments of the biggest games, Camby will be a non-factor. Ray Allen on the other hand, gives them another option in crunch time, and someone who can actually hit a meaningful shot.
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Obviously. But i'm almost positive that in the biggest moments of the biggest games, Camby will be a non-factor. Ray Allen on the other hand, gives them another option in crunch time, and someone who can actually hit a meaningful shot.
The floor spacing he brings to the team makes their Wade/Lebron pick n roll that much more dangerous.
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If he can stay on the floor, i agree. They've had the right idea in mind the whole time, they've just lacked execution. Mike Miller was supposed to be that guy. Then James Jones. Now they have whatever is left of Ray Allen, so maybe third time's a charm.
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I wonder if Steve Novak would have any place on that team. He's only good for 3 pointers, he can't play defense, rebound, or pass, but with LBJ and Wade on the floor, all he really has to do is hang out at the 3 line anyway.
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Novak is only good for spot up threes. As soon as the Heat put someone in his face, he was completely useless. Ray Allen is a good shooter overall. He can still create some space and come off of screens.
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Novak is only good for spot up threes. As soon as the Heat put someone in his face, he was completely useless. Ray Allen is a good shooter overall. He can still create some space and come off of screens.
I know. But why not have both? At least you know Novak is young, and with LBJ and Wade and Bosh on the floor, Novak will be left open a lot.

Could be a nice cheap addition that adds even more floor spacing to the team's rotation if they can afford him.

Dump Miller, get Novak. If that's possible, I'd make that move if I'm Miami.
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Miller hasn't said anything about retiring, and i don't know how they've worked their exceptions but i'm pretty sure they have no money left.
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Hey is it true that Dwight Howard knocked up a prostitute and another white **** that might as well be a prostitute?

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Novak is the same player as James Jones.

And we can't sign anyone even if Miller retires, Allen got the mini mle, we can only sign people to the min or trade for them.
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I want Camby to go to San Antonio. Him and Duncan together on the floor? Yeah, rebound city
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Camby is still totally legit. Always good to have on the court. He might not be on the court at the end of games, but he'll help them a lot over the first 3.5 quarters. He's not the greatest player ever, but hes a massive upgrade over the likes of Anthony, Turiaf, Pittman, and Curry.
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Novak is the same player as James Jones.

And we can't sign anyone even if Miller retires, Allen got the mini mle, we can only sign people to the min or trade for them.
He's taller.
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I really like Joel as a defender but holy **** Camby is so much better than him because of his length and ability to actually catch a basketball. Camby obviously makes the Heat a better team.
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Camby is still totally legit. Always good to have on the court. He might not be on the court at the end of games, but he'll help them a lot over the first 3.5 quarters. He's not the greatest player ever, but hes a massive upgrade over the likes of Anthony, Turiaf, Pittman, and Curry.
I never argued that the Heat are an inferior team with Camby. Just that Camby is overrated.

Camby is better than Anthony offensively, but thatís not saying much. Anthony is one of the most offensively challenged players in the NBA. Camby is more capable of a tip-in here and there and he wonít turn the ball over in traffic as much, but thatís pretty much his offensive upside on a team like Miami.

Defensively, itís a trade-off. Camby is the better rebounder and isnít as confused by size. Anthony is the more active and mobile defender and alters just as many shots (if not more) by being more explosive off the floor. Camby is the better option against big frontlines that can hurt the Heat inside. Anthony is the better option against three guard units that feature a lot of pick-and-roll sets. Even against teams like the Lakers though, who can put two seven-footers on the court at the same time and still run pick-and-rolls, Miami is sacrificing defensive range for more of a ďpresenceĒ down low.
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Yeah but you still need a Center. Their small lineup is their best lineup, but you can't play 4 quarters for an entire season like that. You need a big body in the middle.
And just why is that? Sure, you need a guy to spell LeBron and Bosh, but ****** players like Haslem and Joel Anthony can fit that need just fine. Pick a big man, give him the vet's minimum and they're good to go. The Lakers and any team with Dwight Howard might be the only teams that can harm them this way.
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And just why is that? Sure, you need a guy to spell LeBron and Bosh, but ****** players like Haslem and Joel Anthony can fit that need just fine. Pick a big man, give him the vet's minimum and they're good to go. The Lakers and any team with Dwight Howard might be the only teams that can harm them this way.
Match-ups essentially, and risking fatigue on your big 3 by playing them out of position and more minutes when they dont need to. Plus, its the way the NBA operates. Look what the Bulls did with capable centers, clinched the first seed. That might be the difference between playing the Knicks or Sixers in the first round, although I dont think anyone threatens the Heat in the East if Hibbert leaves. And he alone would be worth the signing of Camby. And Dwight if the Magic make anything of themselves this year with him. Everyone in the East needs to compare their roster to matching up with Miami but they arent unbeatable.
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Dwight's just a full of himself fake-religious bastard.
Tell us how you really feel Brody, jesus. Did he **** your mom? I think he's just a player who's always had this sense of entitlement. And theres really no reason to blame him for that moreso than his surrounings. Hes never had it any other way. Since he was 16, the world was his for the taking. Hes just trying to take it. Do I hate what he's doing to the organization? Sure. But not all the fault is on his broad ******* shoulders.
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his first baby's momma



I would argue to help Dwight, but he is a stupid selfish bastard.

His final wikipedia chapter pretty much sums him up.

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On November 18, 2007, Howard's ex-girlfriend and former Magic dancer Royce Reed gave birth to their son, Braylon. Howard won a defamation judgment against Reed in 2010, when a Florida judge ruled that she violated a court order prohibiting her from mentioning him in the media. He had initially sought $550,500,000 in damages, claiming that she had disparaged him through Twitter and her appearances on the reality television show, Basketball Wives, as the couple's paternity agreement stipulated a $500 fine for each time she mentioned him in public.
and yes...he wanted to take away $550.5 million dollars away from his baby momma...

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...lity-agreement
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his first baby's momma



I would argue to help Dwight, but he is a stupid selfish bastard.

His final wikipedia chapter pretty much sums him up.



and yes...he wanted to take away $550.5 million dollars away from his baby momma...

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...lity-agreement
"Baby's momma" is not the same as "baby". Gold diggers can go get bent. Props to Dwight for fighting the good fight.
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Only reasons I could think of why Camby would want to come to New Orleans are: 1) money and 2) minutes. If he wants to chase a championship then it's definitely not the place for him.

It wouldn't surprise me none if the Hornets didn't go after him, which I haven't heard their name linked to him, and instead big on Elton Brand for one year which I'd be fine with.

Also, can you trade players that have signed their qualifying offer or would it then become a sign and trade with that player having to sign a contract to play for the team he's being traded to?
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