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Old 11-12-2012, 02:04 AM    (permalink
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Maybe the Rockets can trade for a low post presence?

They don't need a major presence there, but someone who can take pressure off that backcourt and pick and roll with Lin.
I definitely wouldn't mind Favors on the Rockets. The Jazz don't bother to play him anyways. It is hilarious watching Asik. He may be the best rebounder in the league and the worst offensive player at the same time.
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Don't see the Jazz dealing Favors. Jefferson or Millsap is probably more the type of player you need anyway, they're both more offensively skilled and can play away from the basket/pick and pop with Lin with Asik's clumsy ass clogging up the lane.
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Yeah, just disregard Elliott's complete lack of professionalism. That wasn't critiquing, that was **** talking.
And? Players get insults and negative comments flung at them ALL the time. Cousins didn't even hear it personally. Someone obviously told him about it, and then he went out to confront him. Beyond stupid.

To me it doesn't even matter what Elliott said. This is about Cousin's immaturity and idiocy. People will say bad things about players all the time, doesn't mean you should go out of your way to confront them for it.

The fact you're trying to defend Cousins (yet again) is hilarious.
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Old 11-12-2012, 02:37 AM    (permalink
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And? Players get insults and negative comments flung at them ALL the time. Cousins didn't even hear it personally. Someone obviously told him about it, and then he went out to confront him. Beyond stupid.

To me it doesn't even matter what Elliott said. This is about Cousin's immaturity and idiocy. People will say bad things about players all the time, doesn't mean you should go out of your way to confront them for it.

The fact you're trying to defend Cousins (yet again) is hilarious.
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But, i forgot, it's the internet where strawmen are the norm.

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But, i forgot, it's the internet where strawmen are the norm.

Also, lolakers.
Right. Outside of one minor (and small) reprimand of Cousins you've done nothing but defend him and go after Elliott. Not sure how a strawman argument applies in this instance but since it's the internet people love misusing what a strawman argument actually is.
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Right. Outside of one minor (and small) reprimand of Cousins you've done nothing but defend him and go after Elliott. Not sure how a strawman argument applies in this instance but since it's the internet people love misusing what a strawman argument actually is.
You're accusing me and attacking an argument or idea i never once made or represented. That's a strawman fallacy. Do you need me to draw you a picture?

Here's a quick wiki reference in case you're lost.

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You're accusing me and attacking an argument or idea i never once made or represented. That's a strawman fallacy. Do you need me to draw you a picture?

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Oh I'm more than aware of what a strawman argument is. The problem is perception pretty much invalidates that. In my eyes you're clearly defending Cousins and shifting the blame on Elliott, while attempting to somehow shift toward your original statement that you don't condone what he did. You're contradicting yourself. It's a weak argument and at best you're trying to rationalize Cousins actions despite saying you don't condone them.

I think it's a simple fact to me: Cousin's is a tool and isn't a very good player. That's my point. As I've said before, the constant excuse making for him is hilarious. Don't understand why this guy gets such a pass despite not only playing mediocre (for several years), as well as acting like a tool/child.

But again, nice try.
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Oh I'm more than aware of what a strawman argument is. The problem is perception pretty much invalidates that. In my eyes you're clearly defending Cousins and shifting the blame on Elliott, while attempting to somehow shift toward your original statement that you don't condone what he did. You're contradicting yourself. It's a weak argument and at best you're trying to rationalize Cousins actions despite saying you don't condone them.

I think it's a simple fact to me: Cousin's is a tool and isn't a very good player. That's my point. As I've said before, the constant excuse making for him is hilarious. Don't understand why this guy gets such a pass despite not only playing mediocre (for several years), as well as acting like a tool/child.

But again, nice try.
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I don't understand what is good about a center (or power forward if you want to look at him that way) having a career 43% field goal percentage. That's atrocious. Granted, he's a great rebounder but that doesn't make up for his complete ineptitude as an offensive player, as well as other flaws.

That doesn't stop Metsox (and others) from trying to defend him and make constant excuses for him. Oh he got a few ticky tack calls. Big deal. Happens to big men all the time. Shouldn't impact how he can't get the ball into the basket to save his life.
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Thank you Jim Buss and Mitch for making the worst possible hire yet....are you ******* kidding me? The problem wasn't the just the offense you idiots, it was the defense, the rotation or lack there of, and the inflexibility of the former coach to correct all of those things. And you just hired a guy who only solves maybe one of those issues.....damn right Pop is smiling, so is Brooks and any other coach of a playoff team out west. I feel like I need to break something....
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You're accusing me and attacking an argument or idea i never once made or represented. That's a strawman fallacy. Do you need me to draw you a picture?

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I definitely don't condone Cousins going out there after the fact and confronting him, But Sean Elliott is garbage and shouldn't be surprised to have someone talk **** back to his face.
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Wow. I'm just shocked at the stupidity of the Lakers. Mike D'Antoni? The one coach that will run Nash, Kobe, and Gasol into the ground.... Oh well.
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Outside of rumors, I never saw that the Lakers had any real interest in Jerry Sloan. I wonder why? He seems like he would've been a much better fit than D'Antoni.
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So, Nash, Kobe, and Dwight figured the road to the ship with Brown at the helm was too easy, and are just trolling us all now, right? RIGHT?
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Outside of rumors, I never saw that the Lakers had any real interest in Jerry Sloan. I wonder why? He seems like he would've been a much better fit than D'Antoni.
Because superstars don't always necessarily get along with Sloan. See: Deron Williams (not that he's anything close to a superstar anymore).
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