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Old 05-12-2013, 05:09 PM    (permalink
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Out of all the stupid plays they review they don't review that one?
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Jack being the shot taker?
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The **** was that?
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FOR ****'S SAKE WHY MUST THEY WAIT TILL THERE'S FIVE SECONDS ON THE CLOCK UNTIL THEY MAKE THEIR MOVE TO THE BASKET. I ******* hate that play, it works like 1/10 of the time, it always ends up in a stepback fadeaway jumper. What a terrible shot.
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Why in God's green earth is Jack jacking up the last shot?
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aren't you meant to run actual plays in those situations?
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Is there a worse shot than the 22' fadeaway jumper?
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FOR ****'S SAKE WHY MUST THEY WAIT TILL THERE'S FIVE SECONDS ON THE CLOCK UNTIL THEY MAKE THEIR MOVE TO THE BASKET. I ******* hate that play, it works like 1/10 of the time, it always ends up in a stepback fadeaway jumper. What a terrible shot.
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How do you airball that badly on a pretty decent look?
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STOP POSTING UP HARRISON BARNES JESUS ******* CHRIST.

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I just want Steph to hit a transition three so the whole city of Oakland can explode.
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Hey MS17, how up to date are you on the Sacramento-Seattle saga?
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Hey MS17, how up to date are you on the Sacramento-Seattle saga?
Pretty up to date on everything that's been going on. I've read that the Sac group has a huge advantage over the Seattle group with the league because Ranadive offered to give up the Kings' piece of revenue sharing completely after they move into their new arena. I doubt they allow the Magoofs to sell 20% to Hansen knowing he wants to move them to Seattle eventually. I really don't know what the **** is up with these guys and why they have it out against the city of Sacramento, but Stern should step in and have some kind of overthrow against these clowns.
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Not MS17, but here is Seattle's perspective:

Hansen/Ballmer are out of this world right now. Hansen is raising his bid and offering to pay each NBA owner 4 mil to relocate. Plus, the Maloofs want to sell to him, threatening to not take the other group's offer if the team isn't relocated this year and still moving the ownership to Hansen/Ballmer. These guys are driven and aren't holding back.

Ethically, I'm torn. The writing was on the wall when Bennett bought the team but at least the Hansen group is outright stating their intentions to move the Kings to Seattle. Still, I know the feeling. It feels like your heart is being ripped out and you're stuck looking at the man holding it, (Stern) and wondering if you'll get it back or it'll be stomped out. At least KJ is trying to save this team, which is noble.
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The 4mil is nothing compared to what Ranadive is offering by giving up their stake of revenue sharing, and that's forever. I like the Hansen-Balmer group, but they need to go find another franchise to buy. The league might not even allow the new valuation and they might not allow Hansen to buy any piece of the team, at all. Final approval is with the rest of the owners, and this whole circus the Magoofs are doing isn't sitting well with anyone, especially not Stern.
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Pretty up to date on everything that's been going on. I've read that the Sac group has a huge advantage over the Seattle group with the league because Ranadive offered to give up the Kings' piece of revenue sharing completely after they move into their new arena. I doubt they allow the Magoofs to sell 20% to Hansen knowing he wants to move them to Seattle eventually. I really don't know what the **** is up with these guys and why they have it out against the city of Sacramento, but Stern should step in and have some kind of overthrow against these clowns.
Okay, so you are aware of both the multiple raises in valuation from $525 to $550 to $625 while also aware of the "backup offer" for Hansen-Ballmer-Nordstrom (HBN) to purchase 20% of the franchise.

I'm not comfortable in the least bit about the situation at all, but I just don't think the NBA BOG will end up making the approval on it this week after a unanimous committee recommendation to deny relocation.

It seems to go in the following steps:

1) NBA denies relocation on basis of strong market still in place in Sacramento
2) NBA denies 65% sale on basis of HBN's known intentions to move team to Seattle
3) NBA denies 20% sale on same basis as #2

That leaves the Maloofs with the option of:
A) Selling to Vivek and co (something they are apparently very opposed to)
or
B) Keeping the team and failing to meet payroll next year which would result in the NBA seizing the team on the NBA's terms.

HBN is also in a position to make this happen now. Because apparently the MOU is set to expire this year and plenty of "Sonic friendly" politicos' seats are up this November. That would explain the desperation to of HBN to go along with the Maloofs' desperation as they are cash-strapped.

If the NBA wants to make this whole mess go away, they need to follow steps 1-3 and then once that is done, sit down with HBN and get them an expansion team. Take the full $625M + $115M (total of $740) in relocation fees which more than makes up for the loss of TV revenue which the total 8-year value was $930M). This removes the willing buyers out of the way and leaves the Maloofs only with the local ownership group.
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Not MS17, but here is Seattle's perspective:

Hansen/Ballmer are out of this world right now. Hansen is raising his bid and offering to pay each NBA owner 4 mil to relocate. Plus, the Maloofs want to sell to him, threatening to not take the other group's offer if the team isn't relocated this year and still moving the ownership to Hansen/Ballmer. These guys are driven and aren't holding back.

Ethically, I'm torn. The writing was on the wall when Bennett bought the team but at least the Hansen group is outright stating their intentions to move the Kings to Seattle. Still, I know the feeling. It feels like your heart is being ripped out and you're stuck looking at the man holding it, (Stern) and wondering if you'll get it back or it'll be stomped out. At least KJ is trying to save this team, which is noble.
The problem with HBN is that by all accounts they have not been playing ball with the NBA at all. That is not generally how you get yourself into a good ole boys club.

However, in the best interests of smoothing things over, it would make sense for the NBA to sit down with HBN and let them know they will be denied at the BOG, but expansion will be on the horizon if they play by the rules.

If the group continues to fail to play by the rules, it's possible they burn all bridges that lead to the NBA.
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The 4mil is nothing compared to what Ranadive is offering by giving up their stake of revenue sharing, and that's forever. I like the Hansen-Balmer group, but they need to go find another franchise to buy. The league might not even allow the new valuation and they might not allow Hansen to buy any piece of the team, at all. Final approval is with the rest of the owners, and this whole circus the Magoofs are doing isn't sitting well with anyone, especially not Stern.
MS, Hansen/Ballmer have offered the same thing, going as far as to say they'll be contributing to revenue sharing from day 1(I highly doubt that esp. with the lack of suits in Key Arena but that's their word). Both teams will contribute to revenue sharing once their new arenas are done anyway.

There's no other franchise for sale or to move right now plus Seattle's mayor may not be re-elected which is why the Seattle group wants something concrete now. When George Shinn, Michael Jordan, Michael Heisley, Howard Schultz and the Maloofs have all been NBA owners I have no idea why the league wont expand and have 2 good owners whose cities will actually like them.

NBA's gonna reject the sale, try to use the best interest clause to take over the Kings, massive lawsuits later both Sacto and Seattle fans enjoy the public tarring of the Maloofs and Stern.
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Okay, so you are aware of both the multiple raises in valuation from $525 to $550 to $625 while also aware of the "backup offer" for Hansen-Ballmer-Nordstrom (HBN) to purchase 20% of the franchise.

I'm not comfortable in the least bit about the situation at all, but I just don't think the NBA BOG will end up making the approval on it this week after a unanimous committee recommendation to deny relocation.

It seems to go in the following steps:

1) NBA denies relocation on basis of strong market still in place in Sacramento
2) NBA denies 65% sale on basis of HBN's known intentions to move team to Seattle
3) NBA denies 20% sale on same basis as #2

That leaves the Maloofs with the option of:
A) Selling to Vivek and co (something they are apparently very opposed to)
or
B) Keeping the team and failing to meet payroll next year which would result in the NBA seizing the team on the NBA's terms.

HBN is also in a position to make this happen now. Because apparently the MOU is set to expire this year and plenty of "Sonic friendly" politicos' seats are up this November. That would explain the desperation to of HBN to go along with the Maloofs' desperation as they are cash-strapped.

If the NBA wants to make this whole mess go away, they need to follow steps 1-3 and then once that is done, sit down with HBN and get them an expansion team. Take the full $625M + $115M (total of $740) in relocation fees which more than makes up for the loss of TV revenue which the total 8-year value was $930M). This removes the willing buyers out of the way and leaves the Maloofs only with the local ownership group.
Pretty much this really except that MOU is actually valid for 5 years and it would take 3/4ths majority of the new council to throw it out.
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