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Old 05-14-2013, 10:04 AM    (permalink
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Kevin Durant is an overrated player. Don't worry guys, you'll see the light soon enough. Give it a couple of years.
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Durant is pretty clearly the second best player in the league, but I do think he's closer to Chris Paul than he is to LeBron James.
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Durant just tried to do literally everything last night and forced up some bad shots, which was sad to see.

Plus, the Grizz are such an awesome team defensively. Durant's going virtually 1 v 5 against a top defensive team
Damn, if only Melo could have apologists say the same thing for him....

The point I want to make is, for the longest time we wanted to paint Durant as a near equal to LeBron James bc we're always looking for a ying to the yang, but the truth is, as good as Durant is, he's nowhere near as good as LeBron is.

So we can put those debates to bed now. LeBron is light years better than Durant.
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Who was debating that?
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I'm pretty sure that debate ended after the Finals last year when LeBron completely exposed Durant defensively. I don't understand why you think he's overrated. No one thinks he's LeBron's equal at this point.
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Durant apologists will tell you he's a great defender now even though he's clearly still a mediocre defender.
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:30 AM    (permalink
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Durant was 10-27 from the field btw. Not exactly efficient, for all the efficiency boners out there.

Gee, isn't it amazing how your efficiency goes down when you don't have another top 5 player in the league playing next to you anymore? What madness!
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So I guess we're just going to ignore the fact that he was 90-187 (48%) in the 7 games prior to this one without Westbrook.

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So I guess we're just going to ignore the fact that he was 90-187 in the 7 games prior to this one.
yeah, srsly. BBD you're over-reacting hardcore. Durant had a bad game? Against one of the best defenses in the league? OH NO!

bad games happen. He forced way too many shots last night and looked off.
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Well if KD kept shooting at 10/27 he'd be on pace to match Melo for his average in the playoffs, keep that in perspective. When role players don't step up for us, KD is going to have to take some tough shots.
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Durant was 10-27 from the field btw. Not exactly efficient, for all the efficiency boners out there.

Gee, isn't it amazing how your efficiency goes down when you don't have another top 5 player in the league playing next to you anymore? What madness!
Gee, isn't it amazing when an actual elite player actually creates for other guys on his team when he has no other options?
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I don't know if bbd is serious or not anymore.
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He's just trying to pick an argument at this point.
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Oh gosh... True centers? i.e. not PFs pretending to be Cs (like Tim Duncan or Greg Monroe)?

1. Dwight Howard
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4. Roy Hibbert
5. Demarcus Cousins
6. Andrew Bogut
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8. Brook Lopez
9. Tyson Chandler
10. Al Horford (not really true center)

Yikes. That's so so so patchy just as it is. And I'm just as inclined to put Cousins at 9 or 10 as 5.

If we are talking about true centers, you can probably chop the list off after 9 and that's a list of true starting centers in the league right now.

*Edit - there are others like Perkins but he can't even get 19 minutes a game.
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Meh, the way this team is built you pretty have to live and die by how Melo and JR play. There's no point in screwing with it now. I would limit JR's minutes if he's sucking and still hoisting up terrible shots though.

This is a poorly constructed team. There's no doubt about it. We're reliant upon two scorers who can be VERY streaky. JR more so than Melo, clearly. Couple that in with the fact they can both be ball hogs/chuckers and it hurts us. We need to spread the ball around more. We have guys who can hit shots but we're an iso ball team.

And it's why I laugh when I hear Rosebud and BBD say Melo is a good passer. He is not a good passer. Just because he can drop a few good passes now and then does not make him a good passer. He doesn't have good court vision and he is typically an unwillingly passer who goes directly for his shot.

That said, I feel like we'll win tonight. Melo has been cold for a few games and usually that means its about time where he will go off for a game.
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