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Maybe you should have listened to your friends about that evil ****.
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I WANT WOODSON FIRED!

Wth was he doing? Why did Pablo only get 3 minutes, when Kidd has gone scoreless for 7 games and sucks on defense? Why did Shumpert only play 15 minutes? Why was JR getting so many minutes? Why doesn't he play Copeland?

What are we saving Camby for?

WTH IS WOODSON DOING?

He's costing us the series with his horrible adjustments. We need a new coach.


I think only true beefs can be with Shumpert and Prigoni minutes. Copeland is bad and a turnstyle on defense. JR needs to be there so it's not 1 on 5 for offense. Also, Camby probably can't play because he's OLD.
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We need Camby's length out there. Hell, give us 5 minutes and 6 hard fouls. Give us something. Anything.

Copeland is offense. He's not great on defense, but he's improved. With offense being the main problem right now, we need a spark. Why not give him some minutes and see if he can provide it? Everything else they're trying offensively clearly isn't working so it's worth a shot.

And when Copeland got in there he went 3 for 4 from 3. So again, why isn't he playing any minutes when we need offense?

And the ball movement goes to **** when Pablo isn't out there, yet he only gets 3 minutes? The hell?

And Pablo plays better defense and offense than Kidd. He's just plain better than Kidd, who is running on fumes. So why on earth are you playing Kidd over Pablo?

Wth is Woodson doing?
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And Chandler is so soft. He's a finesse player. For a big man who's known for his defense, he's a real soft player. Once you get physical with him he ******* up.

That's the problem with this team. They're soft. Only tough players are Shump, Martin, Pablo, and Felton. Kidd too but he's just washed up.

Rest of the team is soft. They don't like getting hit.
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Woodson has not done a good job but he's facing an almost impossible task in regards to minute distribution.

The team is a revolving door. There are always a million moving pieces. Distributing minutes is a nightmare with this hodgepodge of players. This isn't a situation like any other "good" NBA team. There are just too many moving parts. Think about it - Kenyon Martin has been with this team for like a month! There's no cohesion whatsoever.

I think JR should sit. I said it after Game 2. He's done. He's not shooting his way out of this one.

The problem is that the Knicks can't even get shots OFF without JR on the floor because Shumpert/Prig/Kidd are ALL SCARED TO SHOOT THE FREAKING BALL. We have four "2"-guards and ALL FOUR OF THEM have 0 confidence shooting the ball at the moment which for a team that depends on 3-pt shooting, is DISASTROUS.

CHRIS COPELAND IS NOT AN NBA-CALIBER DEFENSIVE PLAYER. He should not see the floor unless he's on absolute fire. It's really that simple. He doesn't know how to play defense. And he can't guard Paul George so it's tough to put him at the 3.

As for Camby, there's just no way they feel confident with him seeing the floor. They aren't saving him for anything lol. There have been two blowouts and he hasn't gotten one minute. He's a glorified assistant coach/practice body/veteran presence. Probably only for halfcourt sets too.

INJURIES/AGE:

1) Melo's banged up/tired legs. He looks like he's 35 years old at times. No where near as spry as the Olympics.... it's just been a long, long run of basketball. Plus the shoulder.
2) Novak's injury was more important than we thought. We need him but he got lost in the shuffle. This team is constructed in such a way that a minor injury to a bench player can throw everything off.
3) Shumpert
4) Kidd/Prig are so old and they're pushing on 90 games...

We need to win 3 games in a row. That's not impossible. Especially with two at home. If JR doesn't start turning it around in the 1st half of game 5, I think he's done playing big minutes. I think even Woodson will see that. I think we need to stick with Jason Kidd. Someone on that coaching staff needs to look him in the eye and tell him - YOU'RE JASON ******* KIDD. He still does do a lot of the little things. Same with Shumpert - he's just too complacent. And play Novak. Put Amare on the floor when Melo takes a breather. Let him get his 6 shots. If he's 5-6, roll with him. If not, that's it.

They don't have to go big. They need their stars to get big. Melo/Chandler should focus on the defensive glass. That's it. That should be the goal in game 5. To outrebound them. Defense is tied to offense... it's so painfully obvious in all levels of basketball. It's very much a game driven on emotion and offensive rebounds are huge drains on teams.

I have not been impressed at all with the Pacers this series. Their defense is good, but their offense is pretty bad. Hibbert is a huge *****, i've never seen someone so large fall so many times. We don't have to double him. Chandler was DPOY last year - that matchup we have to live with the results - we can't give open looks on a double of an ineffficient Hibbert to an offensively challenged team.

Ugh. It's just so bad.

I hate to ask this question now but someone can help me out here.

If the Knicks can amnesty Amare, would they then have the cap space to sign Chris Paul? Couldn't they use the 21 mil he was owed for CP3?
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lololol Knicks. Hey at least you guys finally won a playoff series?
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lololol Knicks. Hey at least you guys finally won a playoff series?
The Knicks can still win this series. They just need to score more points than the Pacers in the next three games. If they do that, they'll win the series. Even if they don't score more points than them, they can still win the series. But it would be a much safer bet to score more points than them in each game.
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The Knicks can still win this series. They just need to score more points than the Pacers in the next three games. If they do that, they'll win the series. Even if they don't score more points than them, they can still win the series. But it would be a much safer bet to score more points than them in each game.




Just in case someone is a Knick's fan... no that isn't Jason Kidd or Marcus Camby. It is actually John Madden.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL

this is every good as I thought it'd be, and then some. especially with what gpngc's saying. incredible
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I'm sure he's joking.... or at least I hope he is.
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Why do you guys hate the Knicks so much? Why are you so jealous?

Is it bc we're a class organization?
Is it bc of our rich history?
Is it bc our championship pedigree?
The Garden?

Don't worry, we'll have our moment in the sun one of these days!

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Why do you guys hate the Knicks so much? Why are you so jealous?

Is it bc we're a class organization?
Is it bc of our rich history?
Is it bc our championship pedigree?
The Garden?

Don't worry, we'll have our moment in the sun one of these days!

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Knicks have won 2, the last one was over 40 years ago.

The only thing New York has on basketball is The Garden and The Rucker.
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Why do you guys hate the Knicks so much? Why are you so jealous?

Is it bc we're a class organization?
Is it bc of our rich history?
Is it bc our championship pedigree?
The Garden?

Don't worry, we'll have our moment in the sun one of these days!

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Meh, right now its Schadenfreude for most.

What in the past 20 years makes the Knicks a class organization?
How many Championships do you have? The same as the Heat and Rockets and fewer than Warriors, Sixers, and Pistons.

People don't like the Knicks because they are arrogant like the Yankee fans, but have no reason to be.
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I think I'm going to start being super overconfident about Gopher football. I mean we did won 6 national championships before World War II.

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Rangers have been in the world series twice in the last few years, does that count as championship pedigree? We didn't win it, but we were there.
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Dammit man. I'm gonna watch youtube clips of the 4 point play and relive that memory, brb.

We're not dead yet though. We're close, but we're not dead yet!

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Guys. Championship pedigree was referring to their ability to perform in the clutch against an elderly, and injured, Celtics squad in round 1. Winning a playoff series is akin to winning a championship when it comes to the Knicks. When you have Isiah Thomas in the building for so long you have to lower your standards.

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Is it bc our championship pedigree?
The Garden?

Don't worry, we'll have our moment in the sun one of these days!

#KnicksIn????
I'm a Lakers fan...other than the Garden...we have everything else...and **** ton more championships to boot.

Loving this so much and gpnc is making all much sweeter haha
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I hope you guys realize that if by some miracle we do actually pull this off and beat the Pacers, I'm gonna take the biggest dump in this thread.
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Everyone is terrified of a team that has scored over 90 points twice all playoffs.
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I've somehow made you guys hate the Knicks more than the Heat.
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I've never hated the Heat.
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Lol pretty sure that championship pedigree post was just a troll job, guys.

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