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Old 05-28-2013, 02:52 PM    (permalink
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He's not a superstar. They can get an Al Jefferson. He's one of those Iguodala type of Beta players. They won't ever get an alpha free agent like a Chris Paul is what I'm saying.

They need to build their teams around the Al Jeffersons of the world. Those are the guys they should target.
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overall.

....which also ties into another question i have, when you're judging players and where they rank in the league, how much do you factor in defense relative to offense?
Well, for reference, i have him as my fourth PG behind Steph and Russ.

Just to address your question, i prefer to heavily grade on overall offense (shooting, efficiency, passing ability and willingness, creativity, handle, rebounding) compared to defense. I'd take an elite offensive player who sucks on defense over an elite defensive player who sucks on offense 100/100 times. The interesting part is when you rank guys like Russ who are damn good on both ends of the floor but definitely leave something to be desired. I'm not sure i could quantify just how valuable offense is to defense but i'd say it's a fair amount leaning towards offense.

We had a mini golden age of bigs in the 00's with Duncan, Garnett, Webber, O'neal, Nowitzki, Gasol, Stat and Rasheed at PF along with other bigs like Shaq, Howard, and Yao. We're heading to an end of that era and it's switching back to a guard dominated league for a while before we get another batch of dominant bigs, so my overall list is gonna be guard heavy at the top (PG heavy).

1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Chris Paul
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According to Peter Vescey, Malone is a lock to the Kings. Poor Boogie's gonna have to play defense now.
Thank the heavens. Keith Dumb couldn't coach his way out of a cereal box. Mark Jackson is screwed, tho
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This really is what i wanted though. Pretty sure the Kings led the league in scoring the second half of the season, but god damn none of those guys know how to play a lick of defense. I'm really hoping to see decent improvement this upcoming season, and we have some pieces to make a run 'n gun small ball team like GS. I like the hire.
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Boogie at 8 is absolutely hysterical.
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I'm getting an even bigger kick out of you thinking i was serious.
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I'm getting an even bigger kick out of you thinking i was serious.
I was pretty sure it was rustle Brodie's jimmies.
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Whoa. Hawks got Budenholzer. Thought he was biding his time until Pop was ready to leave.
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Whoa. Hawks got Budenholzer. Thought he was biding his time until Pop was ready to leave.
WHAT THE **** DUMARS, DO YOUR ******* JOB. Goddammit.
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Thank the heavens. Keith Dumb couldn't coach his way out of a cereal box. Mark Jackson is screwed, tho
Transfer of power to Vivek is supposed to take place on 31st. After that domino falls, we should see a lot more falling. GM, Malone in as HC, etc.
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Hollinger boss.

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This is why Hollinger is now working in a front office. This is the sole reason. Right here.
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Big surprise. Lebron on flopping.

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Let's take the air out of the building quick like game 3. Put it down.
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Eh, whatever....at least he is open about it. Everyone flops anyway.
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OMG!!! That George dunk!!!!
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I'm not gonna argue with James getting a technical but what exactly was it for?
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Hibbert is coming up huge in the middle so far.
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Nice hook there Battier
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He's right. Why wouldn't you do it if the refs will call it? You'd have to be stupid not to.
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If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin.
It's not even cheating. That's the thing. It may seem lame and "soft" but honestly, if the refs call it and it's part of the game then do it.
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I don't have a rhyme for that.
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You mean you don't have an Eddie Guerrero quote to steal for that.
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