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Old 07-02-2013, 03:15 AM    (permalink
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Talks between Dallas and LA of a Mayo and Bledsoe swap
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Been going on since early yesterday, apparently Doc has a hard-on for Mayo. CP3/Mayo/Blake isn't a bad three to work with, though if i were them i kind of like the Knicks package of Shump/Tyson a little better.
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Shump/Chandler for Bledsoe would be a horrible trade for us. I'd be furious.

I'm a big Shumpert fan and think he's going to have a huge year this year.
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Felton does nothing for you guys at PG though.
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Felton isn't nearly as bad at PG as people make him out to be. He's a serviceable PG. He's not a stud by any means, but he's good enough.

Shumpert is more valuable of an asset to me than Bledsoe. I think Bledsoe's hype train is getting a little too big right now.
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Before I get killed for that, here's my reasoning:

1. Shumpert is a 1st NBA caliber defender. He can defend PGs, SGs, and SFs. He's a more versatile defender and better defender than Bledsoe.

2. I fully expect Shumpert's offensive game to develop in a big way this year. He was showing signs of major improvement as his knee got healthier. Also, if forced into a role where he has to score more bc JR is gone, i think he can step up in that role making his lack of offensive production less of a factor.

3. I think Felton/Pablo PG duo is good enough that we don't have to lose such a valuable asset in Shumpert for Bledsoe. I rather have Shump/Felton backcourt than Bledsoe/Tim Hardaway Jr backcourt.
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I'm a big Shumpert fan and think he's going to have a huge year this year.
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I actually agree with BBD for once. I think Shump is gonna be awesome. This might also be way too much 2k13 talking though. But Hardaway JR starting next to Bledsoe would be so gross.
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Shumpert is a horrible offensive player, but he's useful enough in other facets. Trading Chandler is a BIG mistake.
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Shump has developed a 3 point shot and was doing very well attacking the basket at the end of the year. There's no reason why he can't continue to develop on offense.

Chandler is overrated. He's an older more expensive Asik. He makes our team better yes, but if we can find a cheaper alternative that's younger I'm ok with moving Chandler.

But giving up Chandler for Bledsoe is a terrible mistake, let alone both Chandler and Shump for Bledsoe.
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Shump has developed a 3 point shot and was doing very well attacking the basket at the end of the year. There's no reason why he can't continue to develop on offense.

Chandler is overrated. He's an older more expensive Asik. He makes our team better yes, but if we can find a cheaper alternative that's younger I'm ok with moving Chandler.

But giving up Chandler for Bledsoe is a terrible mistake, let alone both Chandler and Shump for Bledsoe.
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Chandler is awesome and is in no way comparable to Asik in terms of overall value.
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All things considered, Asik is by far the better choice between the two.
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Shumpert = Jimmy Butler

Not that they will be bad. They will never be stars, but important pieces on contenders.
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Well, you know how I feel about Chandler. Overrated and overpaid in my opinion. He's good because he's one of the few decent centers in the league but he's FAR from being a really good center.
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Explain to me what Chandler does better than Asik, bc I don't see it.

Asik is a better one on one defender, they are equal as far as rim protectors, equal in rebounding, neither has a lick of offensive talent.

And Asik is younger and cheaper (slightly cheaper but still cheaper).

So what am I missing again?
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Explain to me what Chandler does better than Asik, bc I don't see it.

Asik is a better one on one defender, they are equal as far as rim protectors, equal in rebounding, neither has a lick of offensive talent.

And Asik is younger and cheaper (slightly cheaper but still cheaper).

So what am I missing again?
Asik is not a great finisher around the hoop. He'll tap some stuff back in, but he is scary bad in the PnR.
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Explain to me what Chandler does better than Asik, bc I don't see it.

Asik is a better one on one defender, they are equal as far as rim protectors, equal in rebounding, neither has a lick of offensive talent.

And Asik is younger and cheaper (slightly cheaper but still cheaper).

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Yeah. Asik just doesn't finish like Chandler. Granted, Chandler is super limited on offense and just throws down lobs and dunks on easy passes but unlike Asik he's actually good at it.
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Jazz looking to keep Milsap. Which I kind of understand with him being a a very solid player and all, but wouldn't this stunt the growth of Kanter and Favors. Are they still fixated with the ultra big line up with Milsap at the 3? I guess they could always sign him and move him during the trade deadline.
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Am i the only one that watched the OKC series..? Asik was destroying the Thunder off screen slides and just barreling down the lane. He was finishing everything inside and even had a 20+ pt game. Chandler is not that much better and considering his age and salary, Asik is easily the best choice to have right now.
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Jazz looking to keep Milsap. Which I kind of understand with him being a a very solid player and all, but wouldn't this stunt the growth of Kanter and Favors. Are they still fixated with the ultra big line up with Milsap at the 3? I guess they could always sign him and move him during the trade deadline.
With Kanter/Favors/Gobert/Jeremy Evans (who deserves SOME PT), they should let him go (and trade Al).
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Am i the only one that watched the OKC series..? Asik was destroying the Thunder off screen slides and just barreling down the lane. He was finishing everything inside and even had a 20+ pt game. Chandler is not that much better and considering his age and salary, Asik is easily the best choice to have right now.
It's Kendrick Perkins, that's not an accomplishment.
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