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Old 10-17-2013, 12:38 PM    (permalink
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I hope the knicks resign Melo. Would 1. Keep me entertained seeing them get stuck in NBA limbo and see bbd react and 2. Keeps him far far far far far away from LA
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No **** that....Kupchak better not even contemplate trading Pau for Melo.
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Brody is talking about Pau. No way the Grizz would do Marc for Melo.
Well tell Brody to eat ****.
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You do realize a Knicks signing Melo max contract is significantly higher than a Knicks signing Gasol max contract, right?
How? What's the difference? Isn't a max contract a max contract?
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No **** that....Kupchak better not even contemplate trading Pau for Melo.
I'm gonna enjoy seeing the Lakers be in the basement of the league for the next 5 years.

The best part is how Laker fans feel so offended when a star player doesn't want to play for them.
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The best part is how Laker fans feel so offended when a star player doesn't want to play for them.
Hey, we aren't the Knicks here. We have actually won ****.
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We won't be down for long...get a good draft pick this year, get a FA or 2 over the next few years. No big thang...we have done it time and time again.
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How? What's the difference? Isn't a max contract a max contract?
No. Knicks can pay Melo a ton more.
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How? What's the difference? Isn't a max contract a max contract?
Depends on what team he signs with, how long he has been in the league, how long has he been with the team if they re-sign him, etc.

A max contract for a player that's been in the league 10 years (Melo) is not the same for a player coming off their rookie contract (Rose), just for example.
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BBD simply this:

New York can pay him 130 million over 5 years.
Anyone else can pay him 95 million over 4 years.

The argument going on here is that Melo isn't worth the extra 35 million dollars in cap space. Signing him for almost 30 per means you are not going to have as strong as a supporting cast. That supporting cast in the playmaking PG you need, the defensive enforcer at 5, the shooters that spread the floor ,etc. etc.

The Knicks are in a terrible position in they can't build through the draft and they are going to be forced to resign Melo to a GIANT deal that ties their hands for 5 years.
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Same reason why Kobe is taking more then half the cap for LA.
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BBD simply this:

New York can pay him 130 million over 5 years.
Anyone else can pay him 95 million over 4 years.

The argument going on here is that Melo isn't worth the extra 35 million dollars in cap space. Signing him for almost 30 per means you are not going to have as strong as a supporting cast. That supporting cast in the playmaking PG you need, the defensive enforcer at 5, the shooters that spread the floor ,etc. etc.

The Knicks are in a terrible position in they can't build through the draft and they are going to be forced to resign Melo to a GIANT deal that ties their hands for 5 years.
Ok so my next question is this:

If I know no other team can offer him 5 years, why would I? It's not like he can go and get a better contract elsewhere. My 4 year 95 mill is equal to theirs.

Plus NY media market money that comes with it. He makes more regardless by staying here.

So if I don't offer that 5th year, what can he do? He's stuck. He can't get more than 95 million anywhere else and endorsements won't be equal anywhere else.

So why am I forced to give him that 5th year? I have all the leverage here (Knicks).

Am I missing something? Why can't they play hardball and do that?
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We won't be down for long...get a good draft pick this year, get a FA or 2 over the next few years. No big thang...we have done it time and time again.

You've never done it with the ****** management you have now.
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Ok so my next question is this:

If I know no other team can offer him 5 years, why would I? It's not like he can go and get a better contract elsewhere. My 4 year 95 mill is equal to theirs.

Plus NY media market money that comes with it. He makes more regardless by staying here.

So if I don't offer that 5th year, what can he do? He's stuck. He can't get more than 95 million anywhere else and endorsements won't be equal anywhere else.

So why am I forced to give him that 5th year? I have all the leverage here (Knicks).

Am I missing something? Why can't they play hardball and do that?
1. Sign and trades
2. No easier way to piss off a superstar with a giant ego than by not offerin them a true max. He would 100% leave out of spite.
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Ok so my next question is this:

If I know no other team can offer him 5 years, why would I? It's not like he can go and get a better contract elsewhere. My 4 year 95 mill is equal to theirs.

Plus NY media market money that comes with it. He makes more regardless by staying here.

So if I don't offer that 5th year, what can he do? He's stuck. He can't get more than 95 million anywhere else and endorsements won't be equal anywhere else.

So why am I forced to give him that 5th year? I have all the leverage here (Knicks).

Am I missing something? Why can't they play hardball and do that?
Why doesn't every player sign with New York? Why did Derrick Rose get a $200M deal from Adidas despite not playing in New York? Why is Lebron James the most marketbale player in the league despite not playing in New York? Why did Allen Iverson, Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter, hell even back to Michael Jordan...why didn't they ever want to sign with NY and still were able to be marketable?
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I just hate Jim Buss, not hate, but he's very arrogant and holds grudges, that shouldn't be the case when you get handed the most prestige franchise in all of sports and he's ruining all his fathers hard work

They realise it, they just don't under stand it because Jim Buss sucks as an owner
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Why doesn't every player sign with New York? Why did Derrick Rose get a $200M deal from Adidas despite not playing in New York? Why is Lebron James the most marketbale player in the league despite not playing in New York? Why did Allen Iverson, Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter, hell even back to Michael Jordan...why didn't they ever want to sign with NY and still were able to be marketable?
BC THEY ALL SUCK.

I can't wait for this season to start.
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Jim Buss and James Dolan must have a bet on who could be a more terrible owner.

James Dolan is still winning though.
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You guys are still paying McCurry aren't you? Just for that, Dolan wins forever.
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You know how to push my troll buttons.

It's not fair, you have way too much ammo to use.
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The Lakers are tied with the Heat for the most Championships won in the last 5 years. I don't think anybody is really in a place to insult them for lack of success even though they appear to be headed in the wrong direction.

No one is saying anything other than the bolded.
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