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Old 08-03-2014, 01:32 PM    (permalink
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You guys are massively overrating rookie Wiggins here.
I'm talking more Year 2 Wiggins/LaVine, Year 3 Bennett/Dieng
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Yeah, I don't get the LaVine hype either. He's athletic, that's it at this point.
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Old 08-03-2014, 01:43 PM    (permalink
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Yeah, I don't get the LaVine hype either. He's athletic, that's it at this point.
Athletic and has a 3pt shot. That's a pretty good start.
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He was the third best player on the UCLA team...there isn't anything THAT special about him. He wasn't a great three point shooter.
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Ultra athletic guy with a solid three point shot is not a bad way at all to start your career in the league.

It just kinda sucks that the Cavs are pushing all in for this upcoming year and giving up all their younger talent. Part of the reason why i was pretty excited that Lebron was going back was having him elevate the play of all those young guys with potential. It's still gonna be pretty awesome seeing the Uncle Drew/Wes/Lebron combo but if Wiggins reached his potential along with Waiters transforming his game and something clicking in Bennett's head, along with T^2 being the crazy athletic rebounder guy, it would have been amazing.
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I don't get why the Cavs can't just wait until after the season is over.
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his peak is current Gerald Green, which isn't bad but he isn't going to be a key piece for any playoff team
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I don't get why the Cavs can't just wait until after the season is over.
Because the Wolves are trading Love, and if you let him get traded elsewhere to a contender he's inclined to resign there so you could lose out on him. And truth be told Wiggins stock right now is probably as high as it will be in the next 3 years.
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It's a no brainer for both sides imo.
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I like Lavine like others have stated, being really athletic and a good 3 point shooter will be a good fit for any team. He'll get a lot of playing time in Minny so that's always a good thing for his development. The wolves might actually not be so ******* boring to watch with wiggins and lavine throwing it down from rubio oops.
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If nothing else, LaVine and Wiggins on the same team could make for some fun games. I want to see teammates face off in a dunk contest.
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Lebron is 29. Love is 25. Irving is 22. The Cavs are plenty young.
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Yeah. You align the primes of LeBron and Love for at lest 3 years and hopefully catch Kyrie entering his prime for a year or two along with the former. It's a slam dunk, even if you don't love Kyrie. Slam dunk for the Wolves too.
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Lets not forget Tristan Thompson who presumably won't be moved. He's a pretty good PF but I don't like his fit alongside Love. I'd try to move him even if you need to package him with Waiters to get a rim protecting center.
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Lets not forget Tristan Thompson who presumably won't be moved. He's a pretty good PF but I don't like his fit alongside Love. I'd try to move him even if you need to package him with Waiters to get a rim protecting center.
Thompson, Waiters, Haywood, and 1sts for Hibbert?

Not enough, but if the Pacers were smart they would start thinking about rebuilding this year for the future.

Cavs would be Kyrie/Shuttleworth/LeBron/Love/Hibbert. That's pretty scary.
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Thompson, Waiters, Haywood, and 1sts for Hibbert?

Not enough, but if the Pacers were smart they would start thinking about rebuilding this year for the future.

Cavs would be Kyrie/Shuttleworth/LeBron/Love/Hibbert. That's pretty scary.
The Pacers would take that in an instant. This season is pretty much a throw away now, they lost one of their young talents and Hibbert is getting worse every month. If they can unload him they will
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Uhhh, Pacers would be stupid not to take that trade. And CLE would be idiotic to offer that much for Hibbert.
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Eh....Hibbert and Love has the potential to be an absolutely terrifying frontcourt duo. I guess it depends what you think of Waiters, but I am not a huge fan and he's likely going to get overpaid in 2 years anyway.
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I'd rather have TT right now than Hibbert.
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You're wrong. Especially so considering the context in which it was proposed.
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I love how LeBron suckered everyone into thinking he's "coming home"

More like "I realized Miami was going under, and Cleveland could form a new big 3 that would be young and talented and was the only place I could leave Miami for and not take a gigantic PR hit"

But yeah. He's going home. Does anyone honestly believe that he would "go home" if they didn't have Kyrie, cap space, and could bring in Love (draft Wiggins)?

Give me a break. He's still a soft ass front runner.
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I'd take Hibbert in a heartbeat. Yea he was awful for a few months last year, but he's is an awesome defender and would never be forced to get out of his comfort zone and do things he's not good at with Kyrie/LeBron/Love on the team. Thompson is nice, but he's not good enough to hold me back from hoping Hibbert gets out of his funk and reverts back to what he was for the '13 playoffs and the first half of the '13-'14 season.
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Can they even make the money work though if they trade for Love & Hibbert?
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TT is the definition of average and Love will limit the impact he can make with his best skill anyway. Love and Hibbert would be a pretty perfect pairing to be honest.
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Hibbert is still a good rim protector even though he became a ***** on the boards and offense. Fortunately, Love is good at those things. Then there's always the chance that Hibbert regains his form.
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