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Old 08-05-2014, 10:13 AM    (permalink
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This provided many laughs (rookie class AMA)

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The more I think about it - there is absolutely no way Randle doesn't become a productive NBA player. At worst he'll be a 15/10 guy. That's his floor. Magic probably should have taken him over Gordon.
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The more I think about it - there is absolutely no way Randle doesn't become a productive NBA player. At worst he'll be a 15/10 guy. That's his floor. Magic probably should have taken him over Gordon.
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You realize that last year only five players averaged 15/10? I like Randle, but it's silly to suggest that 15/10 is his floor.
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You realize that last year only five players averaged 15/10? I like Randle, but it's silly to suggest that 15/10 is his floor.
I think he meant down the road. I could see him as a double double guy but not sure i see any kind of star there.
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The more I think about it - there is absolutely no way Randle doesn't become a productive NBA player. At worst he'll be a 15/10 guy. That's his floor. Magic probably should have taken him over Gordon.
I was shocked that the Magic passed on Exum. But I didn't realize how much they actually loved Payton. Once they decided Payton was their top PG, it gave them more flexibility to use the 4th pick any way they wanted.

Why do you think the Magic should have taken Randle over Gordon?
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I was shocked that the Magic passed on Exum. But I didn't realize how much they actually loved Payton. Once they decided Payton was their top PG, it gave them more flexibility to use the 4th pick any way they wanted.

Why do you think the Magic should have taken Randle over Gordon?
Gordon's raw as hell and Randle seems like as close to a sure thing as there is. Physically and mentally he's an NBA big man right now and he's got just as much upside at what, 19 years old? Gordon is more athletic but Randle seems to just as good, if not better, basketball-specific skills. He's also got ideal confidence and passion.

Wasn't so much negative about Gordon, I don't really know as much about him so my comment is pretty much BS.

But Randle just seems like one of those Patrick Peterson/Luke Kuechly types. High quality in high school, high quality in college, has literally everything you want from a quality pro including temperament. Why not just take him? I understand first and 2nd overall, and Embiid to an extent. But he was probably the 4th best prospect in this class.

His ceiling likely isn't a top-10 or even top-20 NBA player, but he's going to be at the very, very least a valuable big man who can rebound and score a bit. Just seems so obvious when you watch him play and teams overthink it by passing on a kid like this for a better athlete and "upside."
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You realize that last year only five players averaged 15/10? I like Randle, but it's silly to suggest that 15/10 is his floor.
I don't know. There's only one reality. Yes he could be a gigantic bust and average 2 pts a game. I predict he goes about 15/10 give or take or becomes even better. We'll see what happens. Maybe that's a little rich. My point wasn't to nail his stats. 16 and 8.5 is the same type of player. My point was to say that I think he'll be good and I'd be shocked if he's not at least a decent starting big man. Maybe I'll be shocked. 15/10ish isn't unattainable just because last season only 5 did it. I'm sure more averaged 15/9 and 15/8, 14/10, etc. I'll revise my statement and say his floor is 13.5/8. Better?
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I don't think it's a stretch for Randle to pull 15/10 on that roster this year. Once Kobe gets hurt, he'll be their #1 scoring option, and I don't see Jordan Hill stealing boards from him.
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I was shocked that the Magic passed on Exum. But I didn't realize how much they actually loved Payton. Once they decided Payton was their top PG, it gave them more flexibility to use the 4th pick any way they wanted.

Why do you think the Magic should have taken Randle over Gordon?
More polished. That is all.

Gordon is a better athlete for sure but athleticism only goes so far. Randle is more of a 4 than Gordon will ever be unless he gets the proper coaching. The thing with him is he will be pretty much the secondary scorer after Kobe, which he will have to adjust to, after being the primary option imo.
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More polished. That is all.

Gordon is a better athlete for sure but athleticism only goes so far. Randle is more of a 4 than Gordon will ever be unless he gets the proper coaching. The thing with him is he will be pretty much the secondary scorer after Kobe, which he will have to adjust to, after being the primary option imo.
Randle's playing time and opportunity will heavily influence his stats. Then people will say DAAAYUM. I think he's a young Carlos Boozer... who by coincidence was signed by the Lakers. Same reasons people don't like Boozer are the same reasons why I don't love Randle. I like him. Love his fire, and think he's gonna be good, but the upside is more limited than people are hyping up right now. Let's see if he can surprise me.

For the Magic, Randle is just not a good fit next to Vucevic. I don't know how anyone could make that case. Gordon may or may not be a PF. He's a tweener. Personally I see him as a SF. I wouldn't expect him to play PF unless it's a small ball lineup. I can't see him being a bust either because even at worst, he's a good wing defender. Those guys have staying power in the NBA. If he doesn't develop a better shot then he'll bust in terms of not becoming a Superstar. He's the second youngest player in the draft, so we shall see.
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Gordon's raw as hell and Randle seems like as close to a sure thing as there is. Physically and mentally he's an NBA big man right now and he's got just as much upside at what, 19 years old? Gordon is more athletic but Randle seems to just as good, if not better, basketball-specific skills. He's also got ideal confidence and passion.

Wasn't so much negative about Gordon, I don't really know as much about him so my comment is pretty much BS.

But Randle just seems like one of those Patrick Peterson/Luke Kuechly types. High quality in high school, high quality in college, has literally everything you want from a quality pro including temperament. Why not just take him? I understand first and 2nd overall, and Embiid to an extent. But he was probably the 4th best prospect in this class.

His ceiling likely isn't a top-10 or even top-20 NBA player, but he's going to be at the very, very least a valuable big man who can rebound and score a bit. Just seems so obvious when you watch him play and teams overthink it by passing on a kid like this for a better athlete and "upside."
Well, Gordon's body and shot are raw as hell, but I wouldn't give the same adjective to his ball handling, defense, rebounding and dunking. Last I checked those are basketball-specific skills too.

Randle does have that inner-dawg in him that gives you that feeling like "he's gonna make it". That's my favorite part of his game.
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Next thing you know they'll want equal pay for equal work.
They already get equal pay for equal work.
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He started realizing the side effects of HGH so he's finally getting off of it.
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