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Old 05-13-2008, 09:45 PM    (permalink
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Jameer Nelson lied to us :(
True...but, he played great in the playoffs. Looking forward, I think a team can win w/ Jameer at the point. We didnt lose this series because, of Jameer Nelson.

We def. need some quality bigs, though.
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Rashard, Lebron, Delonte, Z, Vareajo
Rashard, Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Horford, Bibby
Rashard, KG, Ray Allen, PP, Rondo
Rashard, Chauncey, Rip, Tayshaun, Rasheed
Rashard, Arenas, Butler, Jamison, Haywood
Rashard, Iggy, Andre Miller, Thaddeus, Dalembert

Not sure about Toronto's lineup but getting Bosh and Calderon a guy like Rashard wouldn't hurt things.

Those are all pretty damn elite. And I'm not a Rashard fan at all.
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Am I seeing this right? The Pistons won with 4 bench points? Wow.
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True...but, he played great in the playoffs. Looking forward, I think a team can win w/ Jameer at the point. We didnt lose this series because, of Jameer Nelson.

We def. need some quality bigs, though.
Uh no. Jameer is big part of the problem because he's not a PG, he's not a leader, he can't play defense, can't dictate the flow of the game, can't set up his teammates, didn't even attempt a pass to Howard....

but yeah, most guys see the stat sheet and say he shot well, so he's good. BA-LO-NEY! Gimme a REAL PG!!!!

As I've said before the Magic are a team lead by 4 Shooting Guards and a Center. They are fundamentally flawed.
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Am I seeing this right? Detroit had 12 steals and Orlando had 1? Oh yeah.. I am.
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PLEASE tell me who flops harder then Ginobli??? Nobody even touched him, he just fell backwards...smh.
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Parker flops pretty well too but nobody does it worse than Manu. Its pathetic really.
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Rashard, Lebron, Delonte, Z, Vareajo
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Rashard, Chauncey, Rip, Tayshaun, Rasheed
Rashard, Arenas, Butler, Jamison, Haywood
Rashard, Iggy, Andre Miller, Thaddeus, Dalembert

Not sure about Toronto's lineup but getting Bosh and Calderon a guy like Rashard wouldn't hurt things.

Those are all pretty damn elite. And I'm not a Rashard fan at all.
Pretty sue Atlanta, Boston, Detroit, and Washington could use things besides a player like Lewis. They would get crushed on the boards and would most likely be undersized.
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Hedu didn't even take a 3, so I don't get your point.
The point was that they were down by three and I think they should have made a play around creating an open three.
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Uh no. Jameer is big part of the problem because he's not a PG, he's not a leader, he can't play defense, can't dictate the flow of the game, can't set up his teammates, didn't even attempt a pass to Howard....

but yeah, most guys see the stat sheet and say he shot well, so he's good. BA-LO-NEY! Gimme a REAL PG!!!!

As I've said before the Magic are a team lead by 4 Shooting Guards and a Center. They are fundamentally flawed.
Please tell me you're kidding. Jameer Nelson played his heart out. It was not his fault that we lost this series, at all...I dont know what you were watching because, he proved a lot in these playoffs. Foul trouble and FT shooting were a bit of a problem in this series but, he was fantastic...you couldn't ask for much more.

Jameer is fine at the point and that says a lot coming from me....because, not too long ago I wanted to run him out of town. What we need is a real PF or two who can actually get some rebounds and play inside the post...so, not another Tony Battie or Brian Cook. This isnt a team that is that far away...you get a couple of bigs to help off the bench and you let this team grow together. We werent that far off from winning this series.
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I'm so tired of him...
He is truly lucky he plays in this over protected era, he would be in a stretcher if he tried the crap he does back in the day. Barkley would sit on him while he is spending his guaranteed 5 minutes rolling on the floor in fake agony.
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Rashard, Chauncey, Rip, Tayshaun, Rasheed
Rashard, Arenas, Butler, Jamison, Haywood
Rashard, Iggy, Andre Miller, Thaddeus, Dalembert

Not sure about Toronto's lineup but getting Bosh and Calderon a guy like Rashard wouldn't hurt things.

Those are all pretty damn elite. And I'm not a Rashard fan at all.
I really don't think Rashard is tradeable. Obviously, to get a big man to work with Dwight, they need Rashard out of the 4. I don't think he or Turkoglu can play the 2, and neither can come off the bench(Shard too expensive, and Turkoglu won't want a diminished role after his breakout year). So, I think the only thing they can do in order to change is to trade Turkoglu(he should get a lot because his value is sky high after this season) for a PF/SG, and then pick up whichever one they don't get for the MLE. I think that Jameer is good enough for now, because I don't think they can pick up an impact player at their spot. If they do get an impact guy in the draft, it will probably be at PF(just so it's a solid rebounder/defender), and not at PG or SG. In that case, they should look at PG for the MLE or for Turkoglu.
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No we weren't saying trade him or anything. The guy was saying the Cavs would be the best in the East with Rashard, Hedo or Dwight and I was saying any East playoff team would be the best with any of those guys as well.
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So how many steps are they giving guys in the NBA these days? Traveling is lost in the refs minds I guess.
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I'm so tired of him...
He is truly lucky he plays in this over protected era, he would be in a stretcher if he tried the crap he does back in the day. Barkley would sit on him while he is spending his guaranteed 5 minutes rolling on the floor in fake agony.
Barkley was a lousy defender that flopped a lot.
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Rashard isnt going anywhere and our GM couldnt be any happier w/ him. He started off pretty slow but, was exceptional after the all-star break and on. I'd be surprised if he moved from the PF spot either...he'll atleast still start games there next year but, if we can get a true PF...we could see more of him at the 3 and in some cases...have Hedo play the 2 and Shard play the 3. I mean we already do this but, it would be much frequent and more effective w/ a true PF coming in off the bench.
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So how many steps are they giving guys in the NBA these days? Traveling is lost in the refs minds I guess.
Turkoglu gets about 7 steps himself. :)
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Why not get a guy like Haslem from Miami?
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