NBA Discussion Thread - Page 79

derza222 · 05-21-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghettosermon

Of course, it's what I've been waiting for, expect a major mock sometime next week.

SWEET I'm excited for the mock. Your analysis was unbelievable last time.

As for the Bulls picking Hawes, I think it's definitely a realistic possibility especially because Hibbert will probably be gone. Hibbert would be an awesome pick and I'd be happy with either, but I've got to believe Hibbert is gone at that point, and Hawes would still be a nice pick.

That would be a crazy scenario for the Hawks, Oden isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread like people make him out to be but he's still a very, very good player and would do some nice things for a very talented Hawks team, and Conley would be a great addition as well. What are your thoughts on Crittenton GS? Seems like he could really rise in workouts, although I could be off there. For some reason my gut tells me the Bucks are winning it, although Seattle sure would be interesting because you've got to believe the #1 would then be Durant and whoever is at #2 gets Oden, that or the Sonics pick a C for what the 4th year in a row?

soybean · 05-21-2007, 07:00 PM

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Atlanta Hawks!!!!! Take Oden with #1 and Conley with #11, I hate OSU but dang that would be a dream. But realistically I hope they get the 3rd pick and take Yi and with the 11th pick take Javaris Crittenton. As for who I think will win my gut tells me Boston cause they are so awful.

don't the suns have atlanta's first pick? im not sure. Is there a big chance phoenix can get oden?

Flyboy · 05-21-2007, 07:02 PM

To answer the poll question, I went with Corey Brewer but I'll be damned if I didn't want to go with Jeff Green.

sweetness34 · 05-21-2007, 07:03 PM

Conley is TJ Ford Part II. No outside shot and can't guard bigger players.

Edit: Very talented though.

fenikz · 05-21-2007, 07:05 PM

yah we have their pick but its top 3 protected this year, so if they end up with the 4th we have 2 other 1st rounders and we could easily be moving up to #1

but the sad thing is it seems like marion is gone, i hope we can get Garnett and Durant, wow that would be the greatest line up ever, or even Jermaine O'neil would be nice

Nash
Bell / Barbosa(assuming he isn't gonna be traded since he just signed the extension)
Durant
Garnett
Stat

Flyboy · 05-21-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetness34

Conley is TJ Ford Part II. No outside shot and can't guard bigger players.

Edit: Very talented though.

I think people overrate shooting abilities at least when it comes to PGs. Conley does two things extremely well and that's getting into the lane at will (much like Tony Parker can do) and distributing the ball without turning it over. Conley's outside game can and will probably develop later on. Right now, he seems like a Tony Parker/TJ Ford hybrid and that's pretty damn good in my opinion.

Brodeur · 05-21-2007, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by soybean

don't the suns have atlanta's first pick? im not sure. Is there a big chance phoenix can get oden?

It's a top 3 protected pick, so if Atlanta gets 1-3, they hang on to the pick.

Chucky · 05-21-2007, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetness34

Conley is TJ Ford Part II. No outside shot and can't guard bigger players.

Edit: Very talented though.

Not as fast or quick though

Flyboy · 05-21-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chucky

Not as fast or quick though

... Did you see Conley play? I think his quickness is up to par with Ford's.

sweetness34 · 05-21-2007, 07:11 PM

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Not as fast or quick though

Um yes he is. Conley is lightning quick. And he's very fast with the ball. That said, he's got a ways to go before he's a complete PG. Basically I do the same thing with Mike as I do with TJ, sag back make him beat you with his shot. Because right now, both are high 30% FG shooters.

derza222 · 05-21-2007, 08:18 PM

Saw some various things taken from articles that related to the draft that were pretty interesting.

1. If the Bulls end up with a high pick, they could end up trying to trade it for Amare.

2. If the Celtics get #1, they may take Durant over Oden because of Ainge's philosphies on brain typing when it comes to drafting players.

3. There may be an attempt to get whoever takes Oden to come up with a package to take Conley as well, since the two may want to play together and Conley's dad is Oden's agent.

Obviously nothing set in stone and completely speculation, but all were interesting.

ccB · 05-21-2007, 08:51 PM

I dont see any reason why the suns would trade amare.

sweetness34 · 05-21-2007, 08:59 PM

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I dont see any reaon why the suns would trade amare.

Rifts with D'Antoni. Didn't show up for a postseason meeeting. Don't want to give him the big contract. I think he stays but I wouldn't be shocked to see him dealt.

derza222 · 05-21-2007, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Charm City Byrdgang

I dont see any reaon why the suns would trade amare.

Eh it was more from the Bulls perspective than the Suns, that they'd try and pry Amare from their hands. Probably because of the aforementioned rifts and for cap flexibility.

jballa838 · 05-21-2007, 09:28 PM

the suns might end up with number 4 so why would they trade amare and the 4th pick for a 1 or 2?

fenikz · 05-21-2007, 09:32 PM

There is no chance that Amare gets traded, he is one of the only consistent players on the Suns besides Nash, Marion disappears in a lot of games, he seems like he isn't even trying now, early in the season, it would seems as if he didn't do any thing but at the end of the night he would have 20-15 but now he just sits in the corner waiting for 3's

and even if they did want to trade him prepare to give up everything for him

SeanTaylorRIP · 05-22-2007, 05:40 AM

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the suns might end up with number 4 so why would they trade amare and the 4th pick for a 1 or 2?

Are you joking me, #4 and Amare for Greg Oden, that's a joke and people wonder why I hate Oden so much cause I think he's overrated. I'd take Amare over Oden anyday, Amare is already dominant and so young, Oden isn't this super prospect. To me Yao was a better prospect. Oden hasn't shown that he will be anything more than a Marcus Camby yet.

fenikz · 05-22-2007, 05:47 AM

Yah lets trade away an All-NBA 1st Teamer for a guy that hasn't proven anything...wait and throw in the 4th pick, greatest move in history. After the performance that Amare just did throughout the playoffs do you actually believe that he is going anywhere? He averaged 25 & 12 for **** sake, he is the only true inside presence, made 82% of his free throws & is just a year off of macroscopic surgery, he could very well be an all time great NBA player & he is only 24

...have I proved my point?

SeanTaylorRIP · 05-22-2007, 02:21 PM

If anyone is leaving the Suns it's Shawn Marion, I still wouldn't support that but that would be the most likely if anything.

Windy · 05-22-2007, 02:33 PM

I'm hoping Boston wins tonight. They deserve/need a star like Oden or Durant.

SeanTaylorRIP · 05-22-2007, 02:39 PM

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I'm hoping Boston wins tonight. They deserve/need a star like Oden or Durant.

Atlanta has got it in the bag.

RoyHall#1 · 05-22-2007, 03:05 PM

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Atlanta has got it in the bag.

I'm thinking the Clippers.

SeanTaylorRIP · 05-22-2007, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RoyHall#1

I'm thinking the Clippers.

Chris Kaman has a better chance at becoming an model.

derza222 · 05-22-2007, 03:08 PM

I've been wondering, exactly what sort of value does Paul Pierce have in this draft? I wouldn't be shocked if Danny Ainge was crazy enough to take Durant even if they get the #1 pick, and then tried to move back into the lottery to take a somebody else. But if he thinks Durant is better even by a little bit, he's the kind of guy who isn't afraid to go against the grain and make the pick he believes is right. In that case though, you're looking at Durant playing the 3, meaning Pierce would have to start at the 2 as opposed to flipping between the 2 and the 3, and Gerald Green's play time would suffer as would his development. But if the C's could move back into the lottery in a Pierce trade for a guy like Spencer Hawes perhaps you'd be looking at:

Rondo/West
Green
Durant
Jefferson
Perkins/Hawes

Of course it's more logical to stick Oden in at the 5 and wait a bit to get your 3, maybe let him develop behind Pierce, but I'm wondering exactly what would happen if Ainge goes against the grain and they do get the pick, because the Durant selection would cause problems for them at the 2/3 spots. And even if they just end up at #2 and get Durant, it would cause problems.

RoyHall#1 · 05-22-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghettosermon

Chris Kaman has a better chance at becoming an model.

LOL, he was actually in a commercial as a baby... guess LAC is winning the lottery.