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Old 04-15-2009, 03:00 PM    (permalink
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No. Mo Williams is the GOAT of pro sports. Not just basketball.

Well, when you put it that way, I have no choice to agree with you. Well done, sir.

Also, I still hope that sitting out this one game magically makes all the Cavs starters ice cold and they lose the series to the Pistons. It will be more embarrassing than Elo looking like the biggest baby in sports.

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So finding that Jordan over Ehlo video made me watch like 32892 MJ videos on youtube. God I love MJ. MJ's 69 point game >>> Kobe's 81 point game. MJ + Pippen = greatest duo of all time (yes, that is extreme homerism, but idc). Watching MJ and Pippen play is orgasmic how perfectly they played with eachother. Someone build get me a DeLorian.

/end 90s Bulls/Jordan/Pippen orgasm.
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So finding that Jordan over Ehlo video made me watch like 32892 MJ videos on youtube. God I love MJ. MJ's 69 point game >>> Kobe's 81 point game. MJ + Pippen = greatest duo of all time (yes, that is extreme homerism, but idc). Watching MJ and Pippen play is orgasmic how perfectly they played with eachother. Someone build get me a DeLorian.

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Agreed. Everyone who thinks Kobe is better than Michael, go watch some MJ.
However, LeBron is still better than Jordan Farmar
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I still like Kobe over Lebron.

If I'm asking a guy to take the last second shot and it isn't MJ, I want it to be Kobe.

Probably just me though.

I know Lebron is going to out-stat Kobe for the remainder of his career and will undoubtedly be the more explosive player but I would still want Kobe in the 4th quarter.

I used to hate Kobe too and I still hate the Lakers. I just started liking Kobe after the eagle county alleged rape because everyone turned on him and I like the underdogs haha. Before that everyone was on his nuts and I hated him, just like I hated Jordan for his entire career.
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This year Lebron should win it because the Cavs are nothing w/out him.

That said, I think Kobe is still the most dominant player in the league. He's the closest thing to Jordan that I've seen. Skill wise, Kobe might even be better. But he can't win like Jordan, so that's what separates them.
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This year Lebron should win it because the Cavs are nothing w/out him.

That said, I think Kobe is still the most dominant player in the league. He's the closest thing to Jordan that I've seen. Skill wise, Kobe might even be better. But he can't win like Jordan, so that's what separates them.
Really? Jordan was a better shooter, passer, rebounder, and ball handler. I'll give Kobe defender, even though I think they are at worst a push.

How is Kobe better skillwise?
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Really? Jordan was a better shooter, passer, rebounder, and ball handler. I'll give Kobe defender, even though I think they are at worst a push.

How is Kobe better skillwise?
I'd say Kobe is the much better shooter, Jordan was just clutch. MJ was a better defender though.
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Wow the Rockets flow so much better with Aaron Brooks sitting on the bench and Artest not shooting.
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I'd say Kobe is the much better shooter, Jordan was just clutch. MJ was a better defender though.
Jordan was better at catching and shooting, shooting off balance, and has an almost 50% shooting accuracy compared to Kobe's 43%. Even if I give in that Kobe is a better shooter, Jordan is a much superior scorer.

Even with this, shooting and defense are the only things that are really debatable. Jordan is a superior passer, ball handler, and rebounder. I just don't see how Kobe can be more skilled.

EDIT: also, the Bulls make me sad. But apparently the Sixers want to face Boston, so that makes me happy.
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the problem was jordan was so much ahead of his time and unmatched at the league at this time, he made bulls fans so in love with him that people will deny anybody being the slightest comparable to jordan.

Jordan maybe have been a better mid range shooter than kobe, but kobe is unquestionably the more TALENTED player. not the more skilled player but he just has a more repitoire of weapons.

And don't use that, GO WATCH MJ PLAY BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING argument... Jordan made me basketball fan... kobe kept me as one...
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Chris Quinn is a beast.

Better than Jordan and Kobe combined.
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Well it looks like the Bulls wanted to play Boston but the Sixers would prefer the Magic, and the Cavs don't particularly care what happens. :(
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**** the Bulls and **** the Cavs. I hope wish horrible things to happen Cleveland and Mike Brown.
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The Cavs get to sweep the Pistons.. I'm hoping Maxiell knocks Verajeo on his clowny ass a couple times in the series.
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I momentarily take back my negative wishes, and <3 BOOBIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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The argument that Kobe is more skilled kind of makes sense. Jordan essentially played in the 'air' until he came back from his retirement, which is when he started progressing to more of a jump shooter/back to the basket/tactician player.

Kobe has a different kind of style that is more reminiscent of the post (1st) retirement Jordan where he is more of a jump shooter and not attacking the rim constantly, though Kobe did do that for a few years. It actually kind of stopped toward the end of the Shaq/Kobe title years. Where Kobe has progressed is an overall skill set where he can shoot from anywhere on the court with consistency and is almost as good with his left as he is with his right.

Phil has repeatedly said that one thing that separates Jordan from Kobe is the hands. If you pay close attention to them, its amazing how big Jordan's hands were. You never see Kobe at the corner palming the ball towards his back like Jordan did. You actually don't see Kobe doing a lot of the things that Jordan did because he simply can't. Jordan probably is the prototypical shooting guard. Right height, weight, arm length, hand size, leaping ability, mentality, everything....

A lot of people also forget that the same criticism that Kobe receives now is the same that Jordan received too. The difference is that Jordan was simply a winner and it is much easier to look back and appreciate how amazing he really was. If Kobe wins the title this year and maybe a few more, we may look back and appreciate his career similarly.
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Three pointer to tie it and bring it to overtime.
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2 pointer will win. Give it to boobie! God this game rocks.
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NO!

Why Boobie Why???
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At the moment, I <3 Boobie
And that's why the love was only at the moment. ******* Boobie.
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