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11-19-2007, 08:06 AM
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Is Jamaal Anderson a bust ?
I know it's still early and he is only a rookie, but i'm getting more worried that Anderson is going to be a bust. He hasn't made any plays despite having a good DE on the other side. What do yall think ?
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11-19-2007, 09:56 AM
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I know it's still early and he is only a rookie, but i'm getting more worried that Anderson is going to be a bust. He hasn't made any plays despite having a good DE on the other side. What do yall think ?
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I think you don't know what a big play is. He has been forcing fumbles and been making hard hits and 3rd down stops. he just doesn't have a sack yet. HE has been playing extremely well and doesn't have a sack despite a bunch of pressure he has put on the QB's all year. like most madden players you seem to think only sacks matter for DE's when it's the overall package that matters. in short, no he isn't even close to a bust.
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11-19-2007, 10:03 AM
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like most madden players you seem to think only sacks matter for DE's
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I know sacks aren't the only think that matters, but good job at jumping to assumptions comments like that is why I don't come to this site much.
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I know sacks aren't the only think that matters, but good job at jumping to assumptions comments like that is why I don't come to this site much.
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I' sorry you have just been complaining about his lack of sacks all year.
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11-19-2007, 10:19 AM
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I know has done some good things this year, I just expected a little more since he was picked so high. Mario Williams seems to be playing a lot better his 2nd year. 2 games was blacked out where I live so he could have played good in them.
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I know has done some good things this year, I just expected a little more since he was picked so high. Mario Williams seems to be playing a lot better his 2nd year. 2 games was blacked out where I live so he could have played good in them.
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He has been playing very well. he hasn't been the reason for any big plays yet. he always plays his gaps well and has been extremely good in the run game. he'll gt his first sack soon... and yes, very much like Mario Williams, he will prolly break out next year.
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He sucks at pass rushing right now. He is pretty good at everything else. Give him time.
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11-19-2007, 01:18 PM
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He's strong...he has to develop a pass rush move though. He pushes tackles back into QBs and forces movement back there...he's solid...just gotta figure out how to use that agility to get around, instead of just running through them.
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This is obviously his first year in the league, but he also really had 1 stand-out year at Arkansas.
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11-19-2007, 02:31 PM
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It takes DEs a while to develop in the NFL. We are seeing it with Mario Williams...slowly developing but makes a great play every game and shows flashed of brilliance.
Both he and Jamaal came out as juniors, so they are still like college seniors...if you don't see results in a year and a half then you can get scared that he is a bust.
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11-19-2007, 03:24 PM
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He has at least 2 years...he's only been at the position for 3 years, he's still getting used to his body...
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11-19-2007, 07:54 PM
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The only thing that scares me about Jamaal Anderson is that he may be a little too soft. When I go back and re-watch the game I never see him playing with alot of fire but its way to early to call him a bust. I think evetually he will be a very good DE.
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11-20-2007, 12:46 AM
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It takes DEs a while to develop in the NFL. We are seeing it with Mario Williams...slowly developing but makes a great play every game and shows flashed of brilliance.
Both he and Jamaal came out as juniors, so they are still like college seniors...if you don't see results in a year and a half then you can get scared that he is a bust.
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Why do people keep saying Mario Williams is having some great progression? He started out the year strong, but he still only has 4 sacks. 2 of them came in the first game of the season. He had 4.5 last year, it's not like he's doing extremely better in that area.
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I love it when people write off rookies after 1/2 a season...unless you are an absolute stud, it usually takes 2-3 years, sometimes a little more, to truly reach their potential. Athletes' primes are usually in the 27-28 area, so do the math
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Anthony Spencer is doing better than him as a part time player splitting time with Greg Ellis. ;)
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11-20-2007, 03:02 PM
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Anthony Spencer is doing better than him as a part time player splitting time with Greg Ellis. ;)
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Anthony Spencer is also working with a lot more.
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Anthony Spencer is also working with a lot more.
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Did I say part time??? Oh yeah, I did. Just checking. ;)
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11-22-2007, 12:46 AM
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Did I say part time??? Oh yeah, I did. Just checking. ;)
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Spencer is also in a pass rushing role at OLB, with 3 damn good OL and Demarcus Ware on the other side as well as Carpenter, James and Ayodele inside.
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to be a bust 10 games in....ppl are way to anal. BE was being asked if he was a bust this year...3 years later, give the guy some time, i mean hes 22(?) with raw ability. Besides the interior is quite weak(I think)all they have to worry about is the DE's
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11-22-2007, 02:34 AM
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I think it's fairly clear that he's not a bust.
He's already very solid at playing the run, which was the first thing the coaches asked of him. He's been less good in the passing game, but he's got the natural athleticism, he's very raw, and he will get better.
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I'd say I'm worried. DE is not a huge adjustment from college to NFL. QB, yeah. OT, maybe. WR and RB for blocking purposes maybe.
But Chris Houston adjusted from a pure man scheme. Blalock went from primarily OT to OG. He hasn't showed the innate ability to get to the QB.
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you also have to realize the coaches have told him to focus on the run and haven't fully unleashedh im in the pass game yet
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Uh...DE in College VS Pro is WAY different...WAY different...in college he was told get the QB...and he did...he also wasn't playing against people who are going to be in the NFL week in and week out. OTs are priority because there are SO many in college, but only a few that actually hold up at the NFL level. In the transition from college to NFL he's just going to have to learn how to set up OTs in plays and series prior then hitting them with an inside move.
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11-25-2007, 12:15 PM
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I'd say I'm worried. DE is not a huge adjustment from college to NFL. QB, yeah. OT, maybe. WR and RB for blocking purposes maybe.
But Chris Houston adjusted from a pure man scheme. Blalock went from primarily OT to OG. He hasn't showed the innate ability to get to the QB.
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Still, you can't expect every rookie to come in and be a Randy Moss, Adrian Peterson type of rookie. That's just ridiculous.
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11-26-2007, 06:14 AM
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I'd say I'm worried. DE is not a huge adjustment from college to NFL. QB, yeah. OT, maybe. WR and RB for blocking purposes maybe.
But Chris Houston adjusted from a pure man scheme. Blalock went from primarily OT to OG. He hasn't showed the innate ability to get to the QB.
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DE is a huge adjustment...okay every position has a huge adjustment (except for special teams players), but learning the position takes a while.
I have always thought that the NFL assistant coaches are elite coaches, especially now a days. Anderson is getting great coaching and he is in the right scheme. It will take time, just be patient.
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