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Old 11-22-2007, 03:33 PM    (permalink
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Our WR's are weak, and then there's the USC connection. So no surprise here, and I think he's worth a try. Can't do a backflip over this news though. Ok, I can't do a backflip period lol.

Has anyone closely watched him block? The TE move would be a flop if he blocks like a sissy.
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Might be a good signing, if (and it's a big IF) he's in shape.
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he could possibly be a star at TE too bad everyone just keeps on giving him another chance at receiver
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Lol, I literally yelled out, "Woah!" when I read the title. I don't think this is strictly Team Thread worthy, as BMW is a well known commodity. But, that decision is not up to me.

Anyway, the possibility of signing Williams has already been discussed in the Titans Discussion between me and No Love. Here were the arguments:

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True, but Norm Chow coached him in college. Maybe he could bring something out of him? Then again, Lane Kiffin couldn't do much with him but I hold Chow in higher regards that I do Kiffin.
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BMW is only in his 3rd year and it will be his 3rd team, generally there is a reason that guys don't stick around very often.

If they say most wr's take 3 years to develop working their butts off, with the work ethic this guy seems to have it may very well be never. NFL coaches know what type of work needs to go into being a good player, notice Kiffin states that he doesn't take things serious to stay in this league, bold statements.

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ALAMEDA – Lane Kiffin offered another take on Mike Williams’ failure with the Raiders in his conference call with Minnesota-are reporters.

Kiffin was always tough on Williams in an attempt to motivate him. But it didn’t happen with the Raiders.

“A number of things can happen to guys all of a sudden,” Kiffin said. “Especially when you get drafted that high, 10th overall, and a kid is used to having to no money and all of a sudden here is $13 million or whatever it is. So that can affect people and some people can lose their motivation sometimes. I wish Mike nothing but the best of luck. We gave him a great opportunity. I stuck with him as long as I could. He wasn’t able to take it as serious as he needed to to be able to stay in this league and it’s really a sad story.”
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As I said, I have more trust in Chow than Kiffin since it was Chow who was his OC at USC, not Kiffin. With that said, I do not necessarily want him, but when it comes to him or Ben Troupe, who both probably would have the same role as the big targets on passing downs, I wouldn't mind Williams being out there over Troupe. I don't think a conversion to TE would work. He'd lose speed, and though he has the necessary body control he's not a good enough blocker. Maybe even use him in the slot such as colleges do with their faster TE's. Call me an optomist if you like, but if Williams has a shot, he has it with the Titans and no one else. No other team has Norm Chow and a weak receiving core.
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I agree with you that if Williams has a shot anywhere, that it is with the Titans. I guess I just don't think he has much of a shot anywhere.

Norm was his OC, but Kiffin was his WR coach so I imagine both are pretty capable of working with him and knowing his strengths. Norm of course brings a bit more credibility.

Hopefully if you guys do sign him he pans out and starts working hard. I felt really bad for the guy after the Clarett case and I think he got screwed pretty bad (now it looks like he has screwed the lions). Plus I really want to see Vince with some good targets and BMW has all kinds of potential.
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He has the potential, just no work ethic like you said. Hopefully the "last chance" mentality will actually set in and he'll get his rear in gear, and Chow will have the chance to prove his "genius" tag. If not, he's cut with little money wasted. Though, realistically, I can't see us signing another WR this late unless there's an injury.
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They really need a good wideout so he should have every opportunity to succeed.
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i've given up on him, although i'd like to see him do something productive
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he's a pretty physical receiver but has trouble holding onto the ball. The main reason the raiders cut him was because of his 4th down drop against... i forget who.
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How big is he again? would he be able to put up with the bigger guys on the line?
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Haha Mike Williams as a TE. This is just another opportunity for Mike Williams to disappoint.
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honestly i think he would be a sick TE but i think work ethic is his biggest problem and until he gets that resolved first he wont be any good anywhere
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Let me say this. Mike Williams probably deserved to get cut far before he did, and it appears that the Raiders gave him as good an opportunity as one can have. He was dropping passes left and right.

Maybe Chow can get him to work, but I doubt it.
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Thats not to bad of size.. he puts on 7-10 more pounds of muscle and he would be fine.. he just needs that work ethic
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he could possibly be a star at TE too bad everyone just keeps on giving him another chance at receiver
Sports fans have been saying that since he was drafted into the league. The fact that it hasn't happened yet should tell you something.

Mike Williams CANNOT block, and won't be willing to learn. If no one can get him to lose weight, what makes you think he will want to switch to Tight End?

Even if he were used as a receiving TE only, wouldn't teams just put a DB on him instead of a LB?

It won't work, and it never will. Mike Williams has no future in this league.
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lol at Mike moving to TE. Mike Williams was the worst blocking WR on the Lions when he was with us...
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Wonder what Mel Kiper thinks about him now...during draft day if you asked him, it was a travesty that he lasted until where he did
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He's more like 245 he looked real big and slow for the Raiders. He is just very lazy he won't be on the Titians next season.
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Our WR's are weak, and then there's the USC connection. So no surprise here, and I think he's worth a try. Can't do a backflip over this news though. Ok, I can't do a backflip period lol.

Has anyone closely watched him block? The TE move would be a flop if he blocks like a sissy.
I doubt they will move him to TE because you have working TE's. (Troupe, Hartstock, Scaife...)
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u cant deny he has awesome hands for a big man
He has some awful hands from my recollection of him.
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