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Old 11-27-2007, 04:49 PM    (permalink
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Default Fear of death, and how it affects your life

We started a discussion in the Sean Taylor thread, but people were getting mad at me for derailing that, so I am posting here. Note: I do not want this to turn into a thread debating whether or not an afterlife or deities exist. If your belief fits with the point you are trying to make, mention it and leave it at that. DO NOT try to argue with someone else's belief about religion. That means, no witnessing for the religious folk, and no trying to convince that there is no god for atheist folk.

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I would enjoy life so much more if I knew I wasn't gonna die, because I would try and do more things, there would be no fear.
Like I said before, I feel like death is necessary to be able to love life; just like suffering is necessary to have true happiness.

The way I see it, I am going to die anyways. What does it matter if I die now, or if I die 50 years from now? I will be dead. I won't know any better. I already have an infinite amount of experience not being alive, so what is there to be scared of?

Yes, my friends and family will suffer if I die now, which is why I would rather live. But I won't let the possibility of dying stop me from doing something I want to do. I could die from the drugs I have done, from the alcohol I have consumed, I could piss off the wrong guy and end up shot, I could die from any number of possible reasons. I don't let myself think about how I might die, rather I think about how I can live. I want to try skydiving so bad. A few years ago, I would have been scared to death of it. Now, the rush just seems like it would be worth it.

We only have one life to live, I would rather live it to the fullest than be scared of dying. I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees(I know that isn't exactly what that quote is talking about, but it can fit nonetheless.)
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I'm more afraid of my speech tonight than I am of death. There's nothing I can do about death. When it happens, it happens. That doesn't mean I'm going to live recklessly, however.
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My point is, if I wasn't gonna die there would be no consequences, I could do anything I want, any drug I wanted, jump off of buildings, skydive without parachutes, do all the things that I cant do now because of death.
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most people are going to fear the unknown, and that is where religion is able to come in and fill the void for most people. For others, who do not believe in afterlife there is a fear of experiencing nothing. I'm able to handle death because I look at it as I can't miss life because I'll be dead, that empy feeling in my stomach is a product of myself, and if I'm dead it wont be there anymore.
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I definitely don't live conservatively out of fear or anything. I can't say that I'm afraid of dying, but at the same time I'd like to stick around for awhile. I make conscious choices to eat healthy and exercise, but then I turn around and do 11 shots of vodka out of a beer bong or one of many other stupid things. I kinda believe that when you die it's over, fade to black. I would love nothing more than to be wrong though, and that somehow our soul lives on in some capacity. Either way, life's too short to not enjoy yourself.
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My point is, if I wasn't gonna die there would be no consequences, I could do anything I want, any drug I wanted, jump off of buildings, skydive without parachutes, do all the things that I cant do now because of death.
But that's just childish.

Seriously. Sure, you could. But why would you. (as a side note, people have fallen from 6 miles onto the earth and still survived, for a couple of days, terminal velocity can only make you go SO fast)...

Consequences are a natural point of life.

So is dying, so, I've always said, well, whatever, i just live life like i might have my affairs in order so that i can go out and do what i want, make the most of it. know that i'm going to have a highly productive life with a family, love my heart out and hang my hat up some day. it's weird to think about, but not bothersome.
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My point is, if I wasn't gonna die there would be no consequences, I could do anything I want, any drug I wanted, jump off of buildings, skydive without parachutes, do all the things that I cant do now because of death.
The only way there would be no consequences is if you were invulnerable to all pain. You can still do any drug you want, as long as you take every precaution. Even if you couldn't die, you would spend months in the hospital. You can do pretty much anything within reason, even being able to die.

I guess I just don't let the possibility of death stop me from doing what I want to do. Will that eventually catch up with me? Maybe it will. But I would rather be on my deathbed thinking, I did everything I have ever wanted to do, rather than damn, I wish I would have went skydiving(or any other dangerous activity.)
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But that's just childish.

Seriously. Sure, you could. But why would you. (as a side note, people have fallen from 6 miles onto the earth and still survived, for a couple of days, terminal velocity can only make you go SO fast)...

Consequences are a natural point of life.

So is dying, so, I've always said, well, whatever, i just live life like i might have my affairs in order so that i can go out and do what i want, make the most of it. know that i'm going to have a highly productive life with a family, love my heart out and hang my hat up some day. it's weird to think about, but not bothersome.

Its not childish, its a want to experience things that Ill never get to, I just hate restrictions and death is a restriction of life.
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I definitely don't live conservatively out of fear or anything. I can't say that I'm afraid of dying, but at the same time I'd like to stick around for awhile. I make conscious choices to eat healthy and exercise, but then I turn around and do 11 shots of vodka out of a beer bong or one of many other stupid things. I kinda believe that when you die it's over, fade to black. I would love nothing more than to be wrong though, and that somehow our soul lives on in some capacity. Either way, life's too short to not enjoy yourself.
That is exactly my thoughts, except for the being wrong about an afterlife. The only sort of afterlife that I would want is reincarnation. Like I said, without death, how can you love life? If our souls would live on eternally, how could they be truly happy without the possibility of death?

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most people are going to fear the unknown, and that is where religion is able to come in and fill the void for most people. For others, who do not believe in afterlife there is a fear of experiencing nothing. I'm able to handle death because I look at it as I can't miss life because I'll be dead, that empy feeling in my stomach is a product of myself, and if I'm dead it wont be there anymore.
My thoughts exactly, this comic fits my belief to the T
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But that's just childish.

Seriously. Sure, you could. But why would you. (as a side note, people have fallen from 6 miles onto the earth and still survived, for a couple of days, terminal velocity can only make you go SO fast)...

Consequences are a natural point of life.

So is dying, so, I've always said, well, whatever, i just live life like i might have my affairs in order so that i can go out and do what i want, make the most of it. know that i'm going to have a highly productive life with a family, love my heart out and hang my hat up some day. it's weird to think about, but not bothersome.
I can't understand why someone would want to not ever die. I don't want to die now, but like Hunter S Thompson I don't want to outlive my usefulness either. The consequences of our actions, both good and bad are what make me enjoy life. Without danger, these things wouldn't be fun. There is a reason our adrenaline starts pumping when we do things dangerous, it is a survival tactic. Without that adrenaline, those things would not be fun.
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If you don't think about death you aren't afraid of it...

I just don't think about it.
I am quite a philosopher, so I can't not think about death. Just like I can't not think about the possibility of a deity, no matter how small I think that possibility is. I just enjoy thinking about every single possibility there is. I especially like discussing those possibilities.
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I can't understand why someone would want to not ever die. I don't want to die now, but like Hunter S Thompson I don't want to outlive my usefulness either. The consequences of our actions, both good and bad are what make me enjoy life. Without danger, these things wouldn't be fun. There is a reason our adrenaline starts pumping when we do things dangerous, it is a survival tactic. Without that adrenaline, those things would not be fun.
And after you do them all so many times, they're not as fun as they used to be either.

I've been reading this book about dead bodies. And how, after a time, you'll just ignore the fact that they were too once people. (the book is called Stiff, it's a fantastic look into one of the more morbid but needed parts of society in cadavery). Being dead isn't half bad. Sure, being alive is great. But dead has it's merits too. With or without an afterlife.
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I can't wait, life is sooo dull. But, I do hope I get stuck in some kind of parallel dimension like in Beetlejuice, or Ghost.
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some people let the fear of death consume them... you can die of anything in this world, even from some of the most mundane of tasks. Death is not something to dwell on i think, you're better off just living your life.
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The only thing I fear about death is the uncertainty of an afterlife.
Agreed.. Sometimes that makes it very hard for me to sleep at night... thinking that after you die, nothing happens.. Just like it was before you were born. That actually seems the most realistic, to me.. If I could just see a ghost or something.. I'd be able to sleep a lot easier knowing that something happens.
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I can't wait, life is sooo dull. But, I do hope I get stuck in some kind of parallel dimension like in Beetlejuice, or Ghost.
or Groundhog Day
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Agreed.. Sometimes that makes it very hard for me to sleep at night... thinking that after you die, nothing happens.. Just like it was before you were born. That actually seems the most realistic, to me.. If I could just see a ghost or something.. I'd be able to sleep a lot easier knowing that something happens.
My thoughts exactly!
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or Groundhog Day
that would be the worst possible thing that could happen... you think life is mundane? How about living the same day over and over for the rest of your life... that'd be sweet.
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My thoughts exactly!
I'm glad I'm not the only one bothered by these thoughts. As for death, yes, it does affect my decisions because of how I wonder what difference me not being on this earth would really have. Its not a depressing thought process but more of one filled with simple curiosity. Yet all this thought of death doesn't scare me much, it just makes me wonder and may alter decisions regarding my actions. With that being said, I realize that I am young and take very good care of myself and have a solid head on my shoulders so if I am to die at such a young age it will most likely be due to something that is out of my control.

Oh and another thing, am I the only one who every really thinks about the concept of driving? I mean driving pieces of a metal weighing a ton at 65 mph while others are doing the exact same thing the other way just three feet to your left is a little unnerving at times. I realize all of the safety advances but its still a thing to think about when you strip it down to the basics.
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I hear that. That's probably what everyone fears about death.

On the subject, how would you rather die?

Unexpectedly or knowingly (disease, more specifically)
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I hear that. That's probably what everyone fears about death.

On the subject, how would you rather die?

Unexpectedly or knowingly (disease, more specifically)
Unexpectedly. The suspense of imminent (near-future) death would consume me. Unless I'm really old.
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