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Old 01-05-2008, 08:01 PM    (permalink
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When have the Vikings been to the SB the last time? I forgot it
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Old 01-05-2008, 09:02 PM    (permalink
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Always a classic. The Bears have had plenty of draft busts (Cade McNown, Curtis Enis, David Terrell) but none of them compare to that pimply, steroid taking, could-have-had Barry Sanders, disaster.
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Always a classic. The Bears have had plenty of draft busts (Cade McNown, Curtis Enis, David Terrell) but none of them compare to that pimply, steroid taking, could-have-had Barry Sanders, disaster.
Well, it ended up working out ok for us. After all, we did win a Super Bowl in the '90s.
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Old 01-06-2008, 12:24 AM    (permalink
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Always a classic. The Bears have had plenty of draft busts (Cade McNown, Curtis Enis, David Terrell) but none of them compare to that pimply, steroid taking, could-have-had Barry Sanders, disaster.
Yep, he was a bust, but it's not like Barry has any rings on his fingers... Look at the sheer number of busts the Bears have had just at the QB position and it makes it no surprise to me that they cannot sustain a winning program. GB has been able to not waste draft picks on QBs, and even taking Rodgers was not necessary as Brett has had as good a year as any in his past.

Anyways, getting back to the Vikings QBs, what is the sense of going forward with Tavaris Jackson? They made a nice run at the end of the season and he's athletic and got better. He wasn't good enough even with AD to win the early games that would have actually provided a playoff berth.There's some decent first round guys where the Vikes will be picking, but will management draft another QB? Or will that be dealt with later if Tavaris doesn't do well next year and the HC gets cut?
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Yep, he was a bust, but it's not like Barry has any rings on his fingers... Look at the sheer number of busts the Bears have had just at the QB position and it makes it no surprise to me that they cannot sustain a winning program. GB has been able to not waste draft picks on QBs, and even taking Rodgers was not necessary as Brett has had as good a year as any in his past.

Anyways, getting back to the Vikings QBs, what is the sense of going forward with Tavaris Jackson? They made a nice run at the end of the season and he's athletic and got better. He wasn't good enough even with AD to win the early games that would have actually provided a playoff berth.There's some decent first round guys where the Vikes will be picking, but will management draft another QB? Or will that be dealt with later if Tavaris doesn't do well next year and the HC gets cut?
Don't even get me started with that **** in the beginning of the season. He's gotten much, much better since then. He only had a couple starts up until that point.
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Old 01-06-2008, 12:31 AM    (permalink
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I knew Packers fans would try to rationalize that somehow. Yes yes, the Packers are perfect and almighty, it's hard for you not to be ignoramous homers because you've been so spoiled by Favre, yes yes.
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Old 01-06-2008, 12:46 AM    (permalink
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Tony Mandarich was one of the biggest busts in NFL history. With that said I'd much rather have 1 mega-bust than many regular busts. The Bears busted every year from then until they finally hit on Urlacher in 2000.
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Old 01-06-2008, 01:23 AM    (permalink
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We should just rename this thread the "Packers Self-Esteem Thread". I can't say **** about their history, but I really hope they don't make it to the Super Bowl.
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Old 01-06-2008, 01:37 AM    (permalink
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We should just rename this thread the "Packers Self-Esteem Thread". I can't say **** about their history, but I really hope they don't make it to the Super Bowl.
A mis-informed title always raises my self-esteem. :)
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Tony Mandarich was one of the biggest busts in NFL history. With that said I'd much rather have 1 mega-bust than many regular busts. The Bears busted every year from then until they finally hit on Urlacher in 2000.
You mean like Jamal Reynolds, Ahmad Carroll, Antwan Edwards, Ross Verba, John Michels, etc, etc, etc?

The Packers have had TONS of draft busts, thankfully for them they've had Favre around for the past 15 years to minimize the losses.
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Thank god for meaningless arguements...
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What argument could possibly have meaning on a draft message board? Were you here seeking spiritual enlightenment?
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What argument could possibly have meaning on a draft message board? Were you here seeking spiritual enlightenment?
This thread is to celebrate the Vikings lack of regular season success, not debate who's had the less desirable first round draft picks over the last ten, fifteen years (Bears).
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For the record it's the Lions, and it's really not even that close.
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For the record it's the Lions, and it's really not even that close.
not even just in the nfl.
real life too. the lions are worse than the fifth grade school nerd who picks all his/her friends to play baseball during gym, while the other one picks the kids already well into puberty with back hair already...
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naaa Miami had some really bad first round picks but its close
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Always a classic. The Bears have had plenty of draft busts (Cade McNown, Curtis Enis, David Terrell) but none of them compare to that pimply, steroid taking, could-have-had Barry Sanders, disaster.
If the Packers take Barry there, no Ron Wolf for the Pack. No wolf, No Favre, no super bowls,no Thompson. That's my theory, and I'm sticking to it.
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pwned.

On the Favre note, he has been the equalizer for the franchise's bad drafts throughout the years. They are the smallest market team, yet because they haven't had to take QBs like other teams, they've been more competitive than other circumstances would warrant, including lame coaches, bad personnel decisions and injuries. Something like 225 or so QBs have started for the other 31 teams while Favre has started for the Packers. That's a lot of players the Packers never even had to deal with while they've had one losing season over the last 16 years.
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