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Old 02-19-2007, 05:20 PM    (permalink
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Default Complete 7 round mock plus some offseason signings...

Jake Plummer released and signs with Houston Texans
Jeff Garcia resigns with Philadelphia Eagles
Ahman Green signs with New York Giants
Jammal Lewis released and signs with Oakland Raiders
Donte Stallworth resigns with Philadelphia Eagles
Drew Bennett resigns with Tennessee Titans
Eric Steinbach signs with Miami Dolphins
Leonard Davis signs with Detroit Lions
Dwight Freeney resigns with Indianapolis Colts
Vonnie Holliday signs with Cleveland Browns
Cato June resigns with Indianapolis Colts
London Fletcher-Baker signs with New England Patriots
Adalius Thomas signs with San Francisco 49ers
Nate Clements signs with New Orleans Saints
Ken Hamlin signs with Green Bay Packers
Kris Deilman resigns with San Diego Chargers
Lamont Jordan released and signs with Buffalo Bills


Round 1

1 Oakland Raiders JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
2 Detroit Lions Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas
3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Joe Thomas, LT, Wisconsin
4 Cleveland Browns Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech
5 Arizona Cardinals Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
6 Washington Redskins Alan Branch, DT, Michigan
7 Minnesota Vikings Levi Brown, OT, Penn State
8 Houston Texans Adrian Peterson, RB, Oklahoma
9 Miami Dolphins Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
10 Atlanta Falcons Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville
11 San Francisco 49ers Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska
12 Buffalo Bills Darrelle Revis, CB, Pittsburgh
13 St. Louis Rams Ted Ginn Jr, WR, Ohio State
14 Carolina Panthers LaRon Landry, FS, LSU
15 Pittsburgh Steelers Jarvis Moss, DE/OLB, Florida
16 Green Bay Packers Marshawn Lynch, RB, California
17 Jacksonville Jaguars Reggie Nelson, FS, Florida
18 Cincinnati Bengals Lawrence Timmons, LB, FSU
19 Tennessee Titans Dwayne Jarrett, WR, USC
20 New York Giants Leon Hall, CB, Michigan
21 Denver Broncos Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia
22 Dallas Cowboys Daymeion Hughes, CB, California
23 Kansas City Chiefs Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU
24 New England Patriots Patrick Willis, LB, Ole Miss
25 New York Jets Aaron Ross, CB, Texas
26 Philadelphia Eagles Michael Griffin, FS, Texas
27 New Orleans Saints Tank Tyler, DT, North Carolina State
28 New England Patriots Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee
29 Baltimore Ravens Anthony Spencer, LB, Purdue
30 San Diego Chargers Brandon Meriweather, FS, Miami
31 Chicago Bears Ryan Kalil, C/OG, USC
32 Indianapolis Colts Jon Beason, LB, Miami

Round 2

33 Oakland Raiders Quinn Pitcock, DT, Ohio State
34 Detroit Lions Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn State
35 Cleveland Browns Joe Staley, LT, Central Michigan
36 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Victor Abiamiri, DE, Notre Dame
37 New York Jets Brian Leonard, FB, Rutgers
38 Arizona Cardinals Tony Ugoh, LT, Arkansas
39 Houston Texans Sidney Rice, WR, South Carolina
40 Miami Dolphins Justin Blalock, OG, Texas
41 Minnesota Vikings Chris Houston, CB, Arkansas
42 San Francisco 49ers Eric Weddle, FS, Utah
43 Buffalo Bills Ben Grubbs, OG, Auburn
44 Atlanta Falcons Marcus McCauley, CB, Fresno State
45 Carolina Panthers Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia
46 Pittsburgh Steelers Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
47 Green Bay Packers Greg Olsen, TE, Miami
48 Jacksonville Jaguars David Harris, LB, Michigan
49 Cincinnati Bengals Eric Wright, CB, UNLV
50 Tennessee Titans Justin Harrell, DT, Tennessee
51 New York Giants Earl Everett, LB, Florida
52 St. Louis Rams Stewart Bradley, LB, Nebraska
53 Dallas Cowboys Arron Sears, OG, Tennessee
54 Kansas City Chiefs Brandon Mebane, DT, California
55 Seattle Seahawks Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State
56 Denver Broncos Kenny Irons, RB, Auburn
57 Philadelphia Eagles Anthony Gonzalez, WR, Ohio State
58 New Orleans Saints Buster Davis, LB, FSU
59 New York Jets LaMarr Woodley, LB, Michigan
60 New England Patriots Aaron Rouse, SS, Virginia Tech
61 Baltimore Ravens Josh Beekman, OG, Boston College
62 San Diego Chargers Craig Davis, WR, LSU
63 Chicago Bears Scott Chandler, TE, Iowa
64 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Johnnie Lee Higgins, WR, UTEP

Round 3

65 Oakland Raiders Doug Free, LT, Northern Illinois
66 Detroit Lions Tanard Jackson, CB, Syracuse
67 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Josh Wilson, CB, Maryland
68 Cleveland Browns Brandon Siler, LB, Florida
69 Arizona Cardinals Rufus Alexander, LB, Oklahoma
70 Denver Broncos Jason Hill, WR, Washington State
71 Miami Dolphins Fred Bennett, CB, South Carolina
72 Minnesota Vikings Chansi Stucky, WR, Clemson
73 Houston Texans Troy Smith, QB, Ohio State
74 Buffalo Bills H.B. Blades, LB, Pittsburgh
75 Atlanta Falcons Tony Hunt, RB, Penn State
76 San Francisco 49ers Antonio Pittman, RB, Ohio State
77 Pittsburgh Steelers Marshal Yanda, OG, Iowa
78 Green Bay Packers Ray McDonald, DE, Florida
79 Jacksonville Jaguars Ikiaka Alama-Francis, DE, Hawaii
80 Tennessee Titans Tim Crowder, DE, Texas
81 New York Giants Manuel Ramirez, OG, Texas Tech
82 St. Louis Rams Justin Durant, LB, Hampton
83 Carolina Panthers Drew Stanton, QB, Michigan State
84 Kansas City Chiefs David Irons, CB, Auburn
85 Seattle Seahawks Samson Satele, OG, Hawaii
86 Denver Broncos Ryan McBean, DT, Oklahoma State
87 Dallas Cowboys Mason Crosby, K, Colorado
88 New Orleans Saints Trent Edwards, QB, Stanford
89 New York Jets Kareem Brown, DT, Miami
90 New Orleans Saints Matt Spaeth, TE, Minnesota
91 New England Patriots Dan Bazuin, DE/LB, Central Michigan
92 Baltimore Ravens Kevin Kolb, QB, Houston
93 San Diego Chargers Anthony Waters, LB, Clemson
94 Chicago Bears Sabby Piscitelli, S, Oregon State
95 Indianapolis Colts Ben Patrick, TE, Delaware

Round 4

96 Oakland Raiders Lorenzo Booker, RB, FSU
97 Detroit Lions Tim Duckworth, OG, Auburn
98 Cleveland Browns Brandon Jackson, RB, Nebraska
99 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Ryan Harris, OT, Notre Dame
100 San Francisco 49ers Paul Williams, WR, Fresno State
101 Arizona Cardinals Dwayne Wright, RB, Fresno State
102 Minnesota Vikings Jay Moore, DE, Nebraska
103 Houston Texans Michael Coe, CB, Alabama State
104 Miami Dolphins Jacoby Jones, WR, Lane
105 Atlanta Falcons Audrae Allison, WR, East Carolina
106 San Francisco 49ers Tony Taylor, ILB, Georgia
107 Buffalo Bills Marcus Thomas, DT, Florida
108 Green Bay Packers Jonathan Wade, CB, Tennessee
109 Jacksonville Jaguars Steve Smith, WR, USC
110 Cincinnati Bengals Antonio Johnson, DT, Mississippi State
111 Tennessee Titans Darius Walker, RB, Notre Dame
112 New York Giants Brandon Frye, OT, Virginia Tech
113 St. Louis Rams Tarell Brown, CB, Texas
114 Carolina Panthers James Marten, OT, Boston College
115 Pittsburgh Steelers Zak DeOssie, LB, Brown
116 Seattle Seahawks Michael Johnson, S, Arizona
117 Atlanta Falcons Mansfield Wrotto, OG, Georgia Tech
118 Dallas Cowboys Brian Robison, DE/OLB, Texas
119 New Orleans Saints Ryan Smith, CB, Florida
120 San Francisco 49ers John Wendling, SS, Wyoming
121 Philadelphia Eagles Prescott Burgess, OLB, Michigan
122 New Orleans Saints Dallas Baker, WR, Florida
123 New England Patriots Doug Datish, OG, Ohio State
124 Tennessee Titans C.J. Gaddis, CB, Clemson
125 San Diego Chargers Mike Jones, OG, Iowa
126 Chicago Bears Kyle Young, C/OG, Fresno State
127 Indianapolis Colts Turk McBride, DT, Tennessee

Round 5

128 Oakland Raiders Rhema McKnight, WR, Notre Dame
129 Detroit Lions Joe Newton, TE, Oregon State
130 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Josh Gattis, SS, Wake Forest
131 Cleveland Browns A.J. Davis, CB, North Carolina State
132 Arizona Cardinals John Abbate, LB, Wake Forest
133 Washington Redskins Daniel Sepulveda, P, Baylor
134 Houston Texans Jay Alford, DT, Penn State
135 Detroit Lions Mkristo Bruce, DE, Washington State
136 Minnesota Vikings Courtney Taylor, WR, Auburn
137 San Francisco 49ers Paul Soliai, NT, Utah
138 St. Louis Rams Jordan Palmer, QB, UTEP
139 Atlanta Falcons Nick Folk, K, Arizona
140 Jacksonville Jaguars Allen Barbre, OT, Missouri Southern State
141 Cincinnati Bengals LeRoy Harris, OG, North Carolina State
142 Tennessee Titans John Beck, QB, BYU
143 New York Giants Gary Russell, RB, Minnesota
144 St. Louis Rams Dustin Fry, OG, Clemson
145 Carolina Panthers Brandon Myles, WR, West Virginia
146 Pittsburgh Steelers Joe Filani, WR, Texas Tech
147 Green Bay Packers Marvin White, FS, TCU
148 Denver Broncos Chase Johnson, OT, Wyoming
149 Dallas Cowboys Kevin Payne, SS, Louisiana-Monroe
150 Kansas City Chiefs Martez Milner, TE, Georgia
151 Seattle Seahawks Kenny Scott, CB, Georgia Tech
152 Philadelphia Eagles Kenneth Darby, RB, Alabama
153 New Orleans Saints DeAndre Jackson, CB, Iowa State
154 New York Jets Clark Harris, TE, Rutgers
155 Oakland Raiders LaRon McClain, FB, Alabama
156 Baltimore Ravens David Patterson, DE, Ohio State
157 San Diego Chargers Chris Davis, WR/KR, FSU
158 Chicago Bears Marvin Mitchell, ILB, Tennessee
159 Indianapolis Colts John Tally, CB, Duke

Round 6

160 Oakland Raiders Ola Dagunduro, DT, Nebraska
161 Detroit Lions David Clowney, WR, Virginia Tech
162 Cleveland Browns Stanley Doughty, NT, South Carolina
163 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Chase Pittman, DE, LSU
164 Washington Redskins C.J. Wilson, CB, Baylor
165 New England Patriots Dan Mozes, C, West Virginia
166 Miami Dolphins Baratka Atkins, DE, Miami
167 Minnesota Vikings Justin Warren, ILB, Texas A&M
168 Houston Texans Mike Otto, OT, Purdue
169 Buffalo Bills Stephen Nicholas, LB, South Florida
170 Atlanta Falcons Jonny Harline, TE, BYU
171 San Francisco 49ers Justin Hickman, OLB/DE, UCLA
172 Cincinnati Bengals Juwan Simpson, OLB, Alabama
173 Tennessee Titans Chris Denman, OT, Fresno State
174 New York Giants KaMichael Hall, OLB, Georgia Tech
175 St. Louis Rams Xzavia Jackson, DE, Missouri
176 Carolina Panthers Tim Shaw, OLB, Penn State
177 Pittsburgh Steelers Tyler Palko, QB, Pittsburgh
178 Green Bay Packers Derek Landri, DT/DE, Notre Dame
179 Jacksonville Jaguars Adam Podlesh, P, Maryland
180 Kansas City Chiefs Mario Henderson, OT, FSU
181 Kansas City Chiefs Michael Okwo, LB, Stanford
182 Seattle Seahawks Jason Snelling, FB, Virginia
183 Denver Broncos Julius Wilson, OT, UAB
184 New Orleans Saints Justin Medlock, K, UCLA
185 New York Jets Ryan Moore, WR, Miami
186 Philadelphia Eagles Keith Jackson, DT, Arkansas
187 New England Patriots David Ball, WR, New Hampshire
188 Baltimore Ravens Dan Santucci, OG, Notre Dame
189 Tennessee Titans Kevin McLee, OLB, West Virginia
190 Chicago Bears Jarrett Hicks, WR Texas Tech
191 Tennessee Titans Tony Franklin, S/CB, Virginia

Round 7

192 Oakland Raiders Quincy Black, OLB, New Mexico
193 New York Jets Dallas Sartz, OLB, USC
194 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Reggie Lewis, CB, Florida
195 Chicago Bears Larry Brown, DT, Oklahoma State
196 Washington Redskins Blair Phillips, MLB, Oregon
197 New England Patriots Matt Herian, TE, Nebraska
198 Miami Dolphins Rory Johnson, ILB, Ole Miss
199 Minnesota Vikings J.D. Nelson, SS, Oregon
200 Houston Texans Desmond Bishop, LB, California
201 Buffalo Bills Mike Walker, WR, Central Florida
202 Atlanta Falcons Corey Hilliard, OT, Oklahoma State
203 Cleveland Browns C.J. Ah You, DE, Oklahoma
204 Cincinnati Bengals Kasey Studdard, OG, Texas
205 Tennessee Titans Travarous Bain, CB, Hampton
206 New York Giants Steve Breaston, WR, Michigan
207 St. Louis Rams Antwan Barnes, LB, Florida International
208 Carolina Panthers Jesse Daniels, SS, LSU
209 Pittsburgh Steelers Reggie Ball, QB/WR/KR, Georgia Tech
210 Green Bay Packers Ryne Robinson, WR, Miami (OH)
211 Jacksonville Jaguars Zach Latimer, ILB, Oklahoma
212 Kansas City Chiefs Andrew Carnahan, OT, Arizona State
213 Kansas City Chiefs Cory Anderson, FB, Tennessee
214 Seattle Seahawks Kolby Smith, RB, Louisville
215 Denver Broncos Isiah Stanback, QB, Washington
216 Dallas Cowboys Chris Leak, QB, Florida
217 Dallas Cowboys Nate Harris, LB, Louisville
218 Philadelphia Eagles Uche Nwaneri, OG, Purdue
219 New England Patriots Garrett Wolfe, RB, Northern Illinois
220 Baltimore Ravens Thomas Clayton, RB, Kansas State
221 Tennessee Titans Chandler Williams, WR, Florida International
222 Chicago Bears Jared Zabransky, QB, Boise State
223 Tennessee Titans Chaz Williams, CB, Louisiana-Monroe
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Not a big fan of Meachem, I don't know about Rouse yet, but the rest of the draft was good for the Patriots. Love Patrick Willis.
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Nice Falcons draft. Except Folk, I like Medlock a lot more and not so early either. I'm guessing you have Jimmy Williams moving to FS. Also, this would have to be with us signing some FA OL.
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15 Pittsburgh Steelers Jarvis Moss, DE/OLB, Florida
46 Pittsburgh Steelers Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
77 Pittsburgh Steelers Marshal Yanda, OG, Iowa
115 Pittsburgh Steelers Zak DeOssie, LB, Brown
146 Pittsburgh Steelers Joe Filani, WR, Texas Tech
177 Pittsburgh Steelers Tyler Palko, QB, Pittsburgh
209 Pittsburgh Steelers Reggie Ball, QB/WR/KR, Georgia Tech

Eh, not one good value the entire draft. Doesn't fill many needs. I applaud you on the effort. But would give this Steelers mock a D.
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If Stallworth re-signs than why would the eagles draft Gonzalez? I can see you put a lot of work into this so I won't give you a hard time over it.
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I would like it to happen, but I don't think Garcia will be an Eagle next year.

Ilike the Stallworth re-signing, and it is accurate too.

I think Clements will go to the Browns though, so you may want to change that.

Ilove the first round pick. It fills our major need, the only thing that would change that pick is if he was gone, or Patrick Willis would fall to 26, but that is probably not going to happen.

Bad 2nd rounder for the Eagles. I won't go crazy, but I know some Eagles fans that would have your head with this pick, especially considering you have us re-signing Stallworth. If we re-sign Stallworth, the Eagles will not draft a WR in any round. A DE would be a more possible pick here. I would say Brian Leonard as well, but you have him going early round two, which may be a little of a stretch, but it is possible.

Just thought I would keep you posted, if the Eagles re-sign Stallworth during free agency, it remains a fourth round that we lose.

I'll say that you are assuming Donte re-signs before FA to analyze this pick. The Eagles would draft an ILB if any LB in this draft. Anthony Waters would probably be a solid 3rd rounder for the Eagles, but injuries may scare off a few teams even more. He may be there in round four, but if not, a tall CB or a another ILB could be a possible pick here.

I like that you have us getting a bigger RB in the later rounds in case Leonard wouldn't be the pick. Another option would be Nate Illoa, but he could be around until the 6th. Good pick, though.

I don't know much about this guy. If he is a big, run-stuffing DT this is an OK pick. I think the Eagles will most likely go after a cheap one in FA though.

It was a good idea having the Eagles picking at least one O-linemen, but tackle is a bigger need, not guard, but at least you showed some understanding of how our FO works. This is an OK pick, but a tackle would be more likely.

This draft gets a C, a lot of points were lost with the Gonzales pick, but it could be a B/B+ if you fix the second round pick to a good DE.

This off-season overall though would be a B as it stands right now.
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Packers could use a LB instead of the 2nd DE/DT
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Browns would not wait til round 6 to draft a dlineman, even if we did get one in FA. Otherwise, nice draft.
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23 Kansas City Chiefs Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU
54 Kansas City Chiefs Brandon Mebane, DT, California
84 Kansas City Chiefs David Irons, CB, Auburn
150 Kansas City Chiefs Martez Milner, TE, Georgia
180 Kansas City Chiefs Mario Henderson, OT, FSU
181 Kansas City Chiefs Michael Okwo, LB, Stanford
212 Kansas City Chiefs Andrew Carnahan, OT, Arizona State
213 Kansas City Chiefs Cory Anderson, FB, Tennessee

Def. improvements on Defense, Mebane and Irons address issues that need to be fixed now maybe. Okwo a solid late round defenseive pick. Love the late round use on the Linemen, Carnahan and Henderson are both ones that coule develop into regulars on sundays not this year maybe next. I like the fullback pick, help with blocking and maybe a couple carries.

PIck by Pick:
Jarrett- A-. Big receiver possession type that oculd get near 75 receptions rookie year and only more throughout his career.

Mebane- A+ he will start right away.

Irons- B we need some youth in the scondary, we addressed it the year before and always good to adress it esp with Irons who cold start in a year or two.

Milner C+ Always good to have a third tight end, just in case. Solid hands, needs some polishing could be a starter or at least someone to get about 15-20 receptions just another target. Also help in the blocking game, value of the the pic kat the time maybe cold have picked up a linebaccker or o-linemen.

mario henderson B-, value pick is solid, offensive linemen a need for sure. Big guy for sure, atheltic but not very fast for his size,. Very strong though so i like that, he often shows a killer demeanor.

okwo- B, the value of a pick this late with someone liek this is great would rather an ILB maybe but this will suffice.

Carnahan- A++++ tall, very strong atheltic guy could play guard or taclke. I think he needs to blulk up a lil more, but he is a force. i like him alot.

anderson C full back not bad would rather another wr here but i wouldnt mind this he can havea few rushes like he did earlier in his career, good for blocking protection and lead blocking

overall b/b+

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I like the Redskins' draft. But really, we all know they will make some free agency signings this year.
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It's typical that the Bucs get no signing, but then you made us SKIP CJ!!! Thomas is great but we will never pass up CJ. Cleveland doesn't need him either so that wasn't very logical.
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Not really sure why the Raiders would draft two defensive tackles after signing Sands to a big contract.
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good pick up in lewis, bad draft

rather have...
1st CJ or AD. Moss will be gone and jordan might
2nd joe staley
3rd best DE or DT
4th good pick
5th joe newton and DT or DE, which ever one we dont pick in the 3rd
6th BPA
7th BPA
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23 Kansas City Chiefs Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU
54 Kansas City Chiefs Brandon Mebane, DT, California
84 Kansas City Chiefs David Irons, CB, Auburn
150 Kansas City Chiefs Martez Milner, TE, Georgia
180 Kansas City Chiefs Mario Henderson, OT, FSU
181 Kansas City Chiefs Michael Okwo, LB, Stanford
212 Kansas City Chiefs Andrew Carnahan, OT, Arizona State
213 Kansas City Chiefs Cory Anderson, FB, Tennessee

Def. improvements on Defense, Mebane and Irons address issues that need to be fixed now maybe. Okwo a solid late round defenseive pick. Love the late round use on the Linemen, Carnahan and Henderson are both ones that coule develop into regulars on sundays not this year maybe next. I like the fullback pick, help with blocking and maybe a couple carries.

PIck by Pick:
Jarrett- A-. Big receiver possession type that oculd get near 75 receptions rookie year and only more throughout his career.

Mebane- A+ he will start right away.

Irons- B we need some youth in the scondary, we addressed it the year before and always good to adress it esp with Irons who cold start in a year or two.

Milner C+ Always good to have a third tight end, just in case. Solid hands, needs some polishing could be a starter or at least someone to get about 15-20 receptions just another target. Also help in the blocking game, value of the the pic kat the time maybe cold have picked up a linebaccker or o-linemen.

mario henderson B-, value pick is solid, offensive linemen a need for sure. Big guy for sure, atheltic but not very fast for his size,. Very strong though so i like that, he often shows a killer demeanor.

okwo- B, the value of a pick this late with someone liek this is great would rather an ILB maybe but this will suffice.

Carnahan- A++++ tall, very strong atheltic guy could play guard or taclke. I think he needs to blulk up a lil more, but he is a force. i like him alot.

anderson C full back not bad would rather another wr here but i wouldnt mind this he can havea few rushes like he did earlier in his career, good for blocking protection and lead blocking

overall b/b+

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If thats what happened with the Giants we could expect a 4-12 record. You have us picking up Ahman Green in FA and then we use a draft pick on RB in the 5th?

Why would we take two offensive lineman?

I would not draft a CB in the first round of this draft unless all the top LBs were gone and Revis fell to us. Change the first to Patrick Willis.

In the second I like the pick but if we chose Patrick Willis in the first then it would have to be changed to Arron Sears or Aaron Rouse.

The third round pick is perfect, no change needed.

I'm not sure why we would take an OT when we had taken Ramirez in the previous round. If we took a guard on day one we would slide Diehl to LT and let the rookie start. Change this pick to John Wendling, Dallas Baker, or Ryan Davis.

The fifth round selection is also very baffling, we took Ahman Green in FA to be a change of pace from Jacobs, why would we take a RB in the draft? Change this pick to Kenny Scott.

The sixth round choice is a good pick, but in my opinion Tim Shaw is much better then KaMichael Hall. Give us Shaw there.

The seventh is a great pick, no change needed.

So in the end the draft looks like
Rd.1- Patrick Willis LB Ole Miss
Rd.2- Aaron Rouse S Virginia Tech
Rd.3- Manuel Ramirez OG Texas Tech
Rd.4- Ryan Smith CB Florida
Rd.5- Kenny Scott CB Georgia Tech
Rd.6- Tim Shaw LB Penn State
Rd.7- Steve Breaston WR Michigan
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I love the Steinbech signing, even though Dielman would be nicer since he played for Cameron, but either one is great.

Our draft, I don't like at all.

Our 1st rounder is horrible, we don't need a QB, Pep is our starter and Cleo is our backup, if Pep sucks, then we can draft a guy next year and play Lemon for most if not all of 08, but BQ is just a horrible pick with all the needs we have. With Anderson, Adams, and Branch all of the board, the best thing to do there is trade down. Carolina would love a QB so a trade with them would work. Ginn probably won't be drafted that high, especially by the Rams who have no need for a QB with Bruce, Holt, and Curtis, Bruce and Holt might be getting old, but Holt has at least 3 more years in him and Bruce at least 2. But, since he is gone, Moss (even though his value right now isn't that high, it will be after the combine) would be the perfect fit there to play OLB, if not then maybe Hall. Our 2nd is ok, but not a need if we sign Steinbech. Shelton did a very good job at RG, and he is going to be there, he proved to us he can play well there, all we need to do is restructure his contract. You have Houston going one pick after us, so he would be our pick there, Houston is a beast. Our 3rd is good, considering you didn't have us taking a CB before, but with Houston being my pick in the 2nd, a trade down could be a possibility, or a reach for Crosby, Steve Smith, or Stucky. Harris would be my pick there to play OT. Our 4th is good, considering you didn't have us taking a WR before. Our 6th is good, I would love to take a home town guy in the draft. And our 7th HAS to be Leak/Ball/Stanback/Wolfe/Zabransky, those are 1st round talents right there, j/p. I think a LB is a good idea in the last round, I really don't care about that pick, but a FB or KR would be nice, so maybe a guy like Wolfe, Breaston, or Anderson. My mock for the Phins would be:

1st-TRADE DOWN: OLB Jarvis Moss
2nd- CB Chris Houston
3rd-TRADE DOWN: OT Ryan Harris
4th- WR Jacoby Jones
6th- DE Baratka Atkins
7th- RB Garrett Wolfe
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real good packers draft . my only problem with it would be 2 D-linemen but it's not that big a deal. that's how i'm hoping the first two rounds go.
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wow poor Texans.
not a fan of the signing of Lewis.
CJ is much more likely here.
Raiders just signed Sands.
Doug Free at LT?no thank you.RT and C are the biggest needs on Oline.
I also dont get why the Bills would sign Jordan.mcGahee is better.
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Eh, not one good value the entire draft. Doesn't fill many needs. I applaud you on the effort. But would give this Steelers mock a D.
Jarvis Moss is a solid value in the mid 1st. Mike Bush is a steal in the mid 2nd. What needs exactly do the Steelers have? Only one I can maybe think of is some youth for the OL.

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If Stallworth re-signs than why would the eagles draft Gonzalez?
I was going through the same thing but the Eagles are a team that always, always gets great value and Gonzalez that low is a steal. He gets picked in practically the 3rd round.

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Packers could use a LB instead of the 2nd DE/DT
Even after drafting Hodge and Hawk last season and with all the holes on the DL?

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Browns would not wait til round 6 to draft a dlineman, even if we did get one in FA. Otherwise, nice draft.
Point noted. I was looking for DL for them earlier but thats just kinda how things fell.

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How much do you hate the Vikings?
Care to explain? They get two potentiall filled mid round WRs. A starting RT and Houston in round 2 which is a great pick.

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I like the Redskins' draft. But really, we all know they will make some free agency signings this year.
I only noted 17 signings. Remember there is a million other players that will be out there and the Redskins likely won't be agressive as in past years.

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It's typical that the Bucs get no signing, but then you made us SKIP CJ!!! Thomas is great but we will never pass up CJ. Cleveland doesn't need him either so that wasn't very logical.
Again, I only made 17 signings. Don't get your panties in a knot. There a million other people I haven't noted yet. I think the Bucs could very easily skip CJ to land Thomas. It's not totally outrageous if that was to happen. And I don't understand how you say Cleveland doesn't need him. Cleveland WRs are awful and even the Cleveland fan said he liked the draft.

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Not really sure why the Raiders would draft two defensive tackles after signing Sands to a big contract.
Sapp is good for what,2 more years at most? Sands is a rotational guy. Thats really the only guys they can count on. It's not a reach for them to draft Pitcock who can help right away and then another late round guy to develop for when Sapp retires.

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good pick up in lewis, bad draft

rather have...
1st CJ or AD. Moss will be gone and jordan might
2nd joe staley
3rd best DE or DT
4th good pick
5th joe newton and DT or DE, which ever one we dont pick in the 3rd
6th BPA
7th BPA
having CJ or AD over Russell is pointless to argue. Half the fans will like the Russell pick and half will hate it. I'm trying to make it accurate and you have to admit that Russell seems to be the leading man right now.
Basically if I switched my 2nd and 3rd round pick you'd be happier. That's being kinda nitpicky don't you think?

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If thats what happened with the Giants we could expect a 4-12 record. You have us picking up Ahman Green in FA and then we use a draft pick on RB in the 5th?
What are the chances a 5th round RB makes much impact his 1st year? Not very big. Green gets a one year or two year deal for reasonable money and they Russell takes over in a year or two when he's more ready. It's not rocket science.

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Why would we take two offensive lineman?
You need a OG after moving Diehl to LT hence the Ramirez pick. Plus you need backup LT help after the Whitfield retirement and Petitgout release. Again, not rocket science.

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I would not draft a CB in the first round of this draft unless all the top LBs were gone and Revis fell to us. Change the first to Patrick Willis.
Willis is an ILB. You have Pierce. You'd need a guy like Timmons or Beason or Puz. Willis would be playing out of position. Why waste a 1st rounder on a guy you'd be playing out of position? CB is your next biggest need and Hall is a great value there.

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So in the end the draft looks like
Rd.1- Patrick Willis LB Ole Miss
Rd.2- Aaron Rouse S Virginia Tech
Rd.3- Manuel Ramirez OG Texas Tech
Rd.4- Ryan Smith CB Florida
Rd.5- Kenny Scott CB Georgia Tech
Rd.6- Tim Shaw LB Penn State
Rd.7- Steve Breaston WR Michigan
My last mock looked something like that and I got blasted by Giants fans for not taking CB day 1. I'm no Giants fan but i'd like to hear from some others to see if they prefer my mock or what you have down. After talking to a few Giants fans, my gut says they will like mine more.
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Willis is an ILB. You have Pierce. You'd need a guy like Timmons or Beason or Puz. Willis would be playing out of position. Why waste a 1st rounder on a guy you'd be playing out of position? CB is your next biggest need and Hall is a great value there.
I understand your thinking there but if you knew a bit more about Giants football you would understand my reasoning. Willis is a very versatile player, he would be best suited to ILB but he could definitely play outside easily. Another option for us is to slide Pierce to WLB which has been talked about a lot. Then Willis could start at ILB.
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Our 1st rounder is horrible, we don't need a QB, Pep is our starter and Cleo is our backup
Dude, I'm a huge Dolphins fan. Don't even get me started on this. Cpep hasn't played in two seasons and even before that he was playing awful. Lemonhas never been more then a thrid stringer. Any Dolphins fans that would be comfortable going into the season with that is not truly a Dolphins fan. We've had horrible QB play for years and need to finally take a guy for the future.

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With Anderson, Adams, and Branch all of the board, the best thing to do there is trade down.
Do you see a single trade down at all in my entire draft? Didn't think so. Why bring up something that I didn't even address and would be crazy to predict at this point.

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Our 2nd is ok, but not a need if we sign Steinbech.
Steinbach is being look at around the league as a potential solid starting NFL LT. I think he can be a John Tait type player. Steinbach moves to LT and Blalock takes over LG.

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Harris would be my pick there to play OT.
This guy has looked awful in every offseason workout and has problems keeping on his weight. He can barely crack 290. I would never waste a Day 1 pick on that guy. I don't think you've done your homework because hes considered one of the most overrated players in the draft.

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the Rams who have no need for a QB with Bruce, Holt, and Curtis
Curtis is a FA and likely gone. Bruce has really declined lately. There have already been numerous reports out of St. Louis that the Rams are looking hard at Ginn and Ginn is the fast playmaker Linehan loves. He could easily be the pick for them.

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1st-TRADE DOWN: OLB Jarvis Moss
2nd- CB Chris Houston
3rd-TRADE DOWN: OT Ryan Harris
4th- WR Jacoby Jones
6th- DE Baratka Atkins
7th- RB Garrett Wolfe
As a Dolphins fan, if I saw this as our draft. I'd hunt down, Cameron, Mueller and Wayne H. and put a bullet in each of them.

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wow poor Texans.
Any team that can land Peterson and Rice in the 1st two rounds is doing ok so poor nothing.

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CJ is much more likely here.
Lets not start this again. Reports are saying Russell is the more likely pick. We've already been over this. I'm sorry you personally like CJ better but that doesn't mean Russell is a bad pick.

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Raiders just signed Sands.
Stop the presses. The Raiders are going to the Superbowl. They just resigned a situational guy that was one their team last season to begin with.

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Doug Free at LT?no thank you.RT and C are the biggest needs on Oline.
Free is listed as a LT because he played that in college. He could easily play RT in the pros and it probably better off on that side anyways. Besides after last season, every spot on the Raiders line should be up for grabs.

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I also dont get why the Bills would sign Jordan.mcGahee is better.
After seeing Jordan kinda fizzle out in Oakland, no team is going to sign him to the the main guy. McGahee is still the starter in Oakland but Jordan can keep him fresh and Jordan is amazing as a pass catcher out of the backfield which is what McGahee can't do.
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I love the Jets draft.
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:26 PM    (permalink
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understand your thinking there but if you knew a bit more about Giants football you would understand my reasoning. Willis is a very versatile player, he would be best suited to ILB but he could definitely play outside easily. Another option for us is to slide Pierce to WLB which has been talked about a lot. Then Willis could start at ILB.
There is also alot of talk the Wilkinson will get a starting spot this season. Do you really think the Giants will be in bad shape with Pierce at MLB. Everett and Wilkinson fighting with guys like Demorrio Williams, and Ben Taylor fighting it out for the two OLB spots? I dont think that is such a bad situation. Besides Hall is the better value anyways.
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