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Old 12-08-2007, 02:38 PM    (permalink) 
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I think the saddest thing is Winslow is probably not making the pro bowl behind Gates, Clark, and Gonzalez...Yes I know there is an abundant amount of tight ends in the AFC, but Winslow deserves to go over Gonzalez or Clark
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What I hate about the Pro Bowl is the fact that it only runs a 4-3 base. It's kinda weird to lump a 3-4 OLB like Merriman into a 4-3 OLB position.
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I think the saddest thing is Winslow is probably not making the pro bowl behind Gates, Clark, and Gonzalez...Yes I know there is an abundant amount of tight ends in the AFC, but Winslow deserves to go over Gonzalez or Clark
I think Winslow will make it.
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browns are going to have 5 pro bowlers, on offense. imgaine if bentley was healthy, :(.
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QB: Brady, Manning, Big Ben; Farve, Hasselbeck, Romo
RB: Addai, Parker, LT; Westbrook, Peterson, Edge
WR: Moss, Braylon, Welker, HOush; Owens, Burress, Holt, Jennings
FB: Neal; Karney
TE: Gates, Gonzalez; Witten, Cooley
OT: Olivea, Mcneil, Thomas; Jamaal Brown, Mckinnie, Clifton
OG: Dielman, Fanaca, Mankins; Allen, Colledge, Hutch
C: Hardwick, Meester; Birk, Hartwig

DE: Allen, Castillo, Mario Williams(what can i say, hes playing great); Cole, Osi, Kapman
DT: Hampton, Haynesworth, Ngata; Dockett, Rogers, Kevin Williams
OLB: Harrison, Howard, Vrabel; Dansby, Ware, Boley
MLB: Farrior, Harris; Willis, Fletcher
CB: Cromartie, Taylor, Revis(playing great ball); Newman, Hall, Clements
SS: Sean Jones; Darren Sharper
FS: Reed; Wilson
K: Bironas; Folk
P: Moorman; Lee
KR: Cribbs; Hester
ST: Osgood; Mikell



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Here is my Pro Bowl Ballot

AFC Roster

AFC QB = T.Brady, D.Anderson, and P.Manning
AFC RB = J.Addai, L.Tomlinson, and W.Parker
AFC WR = T.Housmandzadeh, R.Wayne, R.Moss, and B.Edwards
AFC FB = L.Neal
AFC TE = K.Winslow and D.Clark
AFC OT = K.Barnes, M.Light, and R.Diem
AFC OG = A.Faneca, L.Mankins, and B.Waters
AFC C = D.Koppen and K.Mawae
AFC DE = J.Allen, E.Dumervil, and D.Burgess
AFC DT = A.Haynesworth, H.Ngata, and J.Williams
AFC OLB = C.Crowder, K.Bulluck, and T.Howard
AFC ILB = R.Lewis and D.Ryans
AFC CB = A.Samuel, C.Bailey, and A.Cromartie
AFC SS = B.Sanders
AFC FS = E.Reed
AFC K = P.Dawson
AFC P = B.Moorman
AFC KR = J.Cribbs
AFC ST = L.Izzo

NFC Roster

NFC QB = B.Favre, T.Romo, and M.Hasselback
NFC RB = A.Peterson, C.Taylor, and B.Westbrook
NFC WR = T.Owens, P.Burress, G.Jennings, and J.Galloway
NFC FB = T.Richardson
NFC TE = J.Witten and C.Cooley
NFC OT = F.Adams, W.Jones, and B.McKinnie
NFC OG = L.Allen, L.Davis, and S.Hutchinson
NFC C = O.Kruetz and M.Birk
NFC DE = T.Cole, A.Kampman, and O.Umenyiora
NFC DT = T.Harris, P.Williams, and D.Dockett
NFC OLB = A.Hawk, E.Sims, and M.Boley
NFC ILB = P.Willis and L.Fletcher
NFC CB = L.Sheppard, A.Henry, and C.Woodson
NFC SS = A.Wilson
NFC FS = K.Hamlin
NFC K = N.Folk
NFC P = B.Maynard
NFC KR = D.Hester
NFC ST = B.Ayanbadejo
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Leon Washington is the top KR in the AFC....
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Leon Washington is the top KR in the AFC....
you ever hear of josh cribbs?
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don't mind him, he is special.
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Mario Williams has to go....he is playing very well....
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Fred Taylor definitely deserves to go. Anyone see his 80 yard td? He blew by the whole Panthers D.
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Leon Washington is the top KR in the AFC....
at least you arent biased or anything
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you ever hear of josh cribbs?
Leon is better, he has 1 more TD than Cribbs, and they never kick to Washington anymore. Cribbs is good but Leon is better. Justin Miller is also better than Cribbs but Miller is injured. They stop kicking to Leon like 5-6 weeks ago. Leon has 33 returns and Cribbs has 50, it shows teams are more scared of Leon than Cribbs.
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Fred Taylor definitely deserves to go. Anyone see his 80 yard td? He blew by the whole Panthers D.
Yea Taylor is a beast!!
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Leon is better, he has 1 more TD than Cribbs, and they never kick to Washington anymore. Cribbs is good but Leon is better. Justin Miller is also better than Cribbs but Miller is injured.

And Chris Baker>Antonio Gates
Kellen Clemens>Tom Brady
Thomas Jones>Adrian Peterson
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at least you arent biased or anything
How am I biased??? Not every Jets player is bad, Its not like I am saying that Adrien Clarke our LG should be in the probowl. I am saying that Mangold, Rhodes, Washington should be in. And that Harris is one of the better ILBs this year in the league. I also think Cotchery and Coles are really good WRs, but besides that I am not saying bums are great.
Rhodes should be in might I add, he has 5 ints this year!! The guy is amazing, did anyone see him jack up Cribbs and Edwards??? He is turning into one of the best safetys in the league.
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How am I biased??? Not every Jets player is bad, Its not like I am saying that Adrien Clarke our LG should be in the probowl. I am saying that Mangold, Rhodes, Washington should be in. And that Harris is one of the better ILBs this year in the league. I also think Cotchery and Coles are really good WRs, but besides that I am not saying bums are great.
Rhodes should be in might I add, he has 5 ints this year!! The guy is amazing, did anyone see him jack up Cribbs and Edwards??? He is turning into one of the best safetys in the league.


The Jets are one of the worst teams in the league. They will not get 3 guys in.
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Kellen Clemens>Tom Brady
Thomas Jones>Adrian Peterson
My god, I am not saying stuff like that, the guys I am saying should be in I actually can put out some facts and say why they should be in. I am not saying stupid stuff, did you actually ever see Leon Washington return?? He was running them back at will untill they stop kicking to him and kicked it to Brad Smith.
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The Jets are one of the worst teams in the league. They will not get 3 guys in.
No kidding, we had 1 last year and we were 10-6, and we aren't one of the worst teams, well we are with our record wise, but we just had 0 breaks this year. The team is better then the record. We have some holes though that are killing us, like lack of a pass rusher, LG, RT, and others. But I think we can make the playoffs again next year with some improvements in the team talent. Clemens looks good too, I think he has a future as a starting QB, he definitely has potential, just a horrible offensive line and been having a injured Coles and Cotchery.
We may get 1 probowler this year, if I could choose I would say Rhodes, the guy is a all pro safety. He is one of the only reasons to watch our defense. He has no help around him and still got 5 ints this year. Mangold deserves it also, but vets most likely will get in over him, Mangold will get his soon though, he will be a premier player in this league. Washington>Cribbs, Washington is a better offensive weapon and a better returner.
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After today, isn't LT your All Pro? Like 5 yards off the rushing lead? 14 rushing/receiving tds, oh yeah and plus he is the Man-God of running backs?

What about Cromartie? another pick today. Only thrown at twice, and the other would have been a pick if not for a great play by the wideout. How long until "great ballhawking skills" gets translated into "It's not worth it, don't throw at this guy at all costs?"
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The only players we have that should even be in consideration are Haynesworth, Vanden Bosch, and Roos. More than likely only Haynesworth will make it.

Keith Bulluck should not make it, he has not played well this year I don't care what anyone says...David Thornton has outplayed him in my opinion with the exception of a game or two.
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Only people that should be considered for the Cardinals are Edge, Fitzgerald, Dockett, and Dansby.
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Addai should make it, and Saturday is a lock.

More intriguing is the fact that Dallas Clark leads all TEs in TD catches, he could possibly beat out Tony Gonzalez for the AFC.
Why would he beat out Tony? Hell, Clark really isn't even a TE. footballoutsiders.com doesn't even include him in their TE rankings because he is more of a slot receiver than a tight end.

Plus, if 79 receptions, 954 yards, and 5 touchdowns after 14 games is not deserving of a pro bowl then I don't know what is.
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I think the saddest thing is Winslow is probably not making the pro bowl behind Gates, Clark, and Gonzalez...Yes I know there is an abundant amount of tight ends in the AFC, but Winslow deserves to go over Gonzalez or Clark
Why does Winslow deserve it over Gonzalez?

Tony Gonzalez-79 receptions, 954 yards, 5 touchdowns
Kellen Winslow- 69 receptions, 943 yard, 5 touchdowns

I see no reason for Winslow to be in there over Gonzalez.
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What I hate about the Pro Bowl is the fact that it only runs a 4-3 base. It's kinda weird to lump a 3-4 OLB like Merriman into a 4-3 OLB position.
If anything the widespread use of the 3-4 is unfair for 4-3 linebackers. 3-4 linebackers get the hype because of all the sacks they get while great 4-3 linebackers who do their job just as well don't get the hype.

And sorry bud but the majority of the league runs the 4-3 hence why that defense is run in the pro bowl.
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