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Old 12-30-2007, 04:36 PM    (permalink
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Of all the 5* prospects, which is most likely to be a bust? I'll say Dayne Crist.
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Will Hill seems like a good choice as does Crist, he's gonna get mauled up in ND.

I'll throw Nigel Bradham out there as well. His game tape just doesn't impress me. I think he'll be ok but nothing like what people are touting him as. He just doesn't move that well and won't do anything in coverage. All he is to me is a thumper in the middle which is ok and plays its role but isn't dynamic enough to be rated a 5 star.
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Will Hill seems like a good choice as does Crist, he's gonna get mauled up in ND.

I'll throw Nigel Bradham out there as well. His game tape just doesn't impress me. I think he'll be ok but nothing like what people are touting him as. He just doesn't move that well and won't do anything in coverage. All he is to me is a thumper in the middle which is ok and plays its role but isn't dynamic enough to be rated a 5 star.
I wasn't that impressed with Nigel's film either. I was more impressed with Nigel Carr's highlights.
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But shouldn't we wait until ND's class is complete so we can make sure there aren't any more horrible 5-star guys who are worse than walk-ons at any other school lurking around?

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E.J. Manuel or Sam MacGuffie.

Will Hill will be pretty good imo.
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E.J. Manuel or Sam MacGuffie.

Will Hill will be pretty good imo.
McGuffie isn't a 5* and i think he's gonna be dominate.
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Yeaaaaaaah....no. EJ Manuel is going to be coached by Jimbo Fisher, and Pryor by Jim Tressell. They won't be busts. Your God Dayne Crist won't amount to **** at Notre Dame.
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Yeaaaaaaah....no. EJ Manuel is going to be coached by Jimbo Fisher, and Pryor by Jim Tressell. They won't be busts. Your God Dayne Crist won't amount to **** at Notre Dame.
Yeah, because Charlie Weis is horrible at developing QBs.
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That was the NFL buddy. Chollie hasn't really impressed me yet with his developing of players. Brady Quinn is horrible.
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That was the NFL buddy. Chollie hasn't really impressed me yet with his developing of players. Brady Quinn is horrible.
Brady Quinn was a first round pick in April. Thanks for playing, though.
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So all first round quarterbacks are good? How is Akili Smith doing? He wouldn't have been if Cleveland hadn't traded up. He isn't good. Sorry to dissapoint you, but he isn't. He has a sissy arm, and he'll probably be a career backup.
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So all first round quarterbacks are good? How is Akili Smith doing? He wouldn't have been if Cleveland hadn't traded up. He isn't good. Sorry to dissapoint you, but he isn't. He has a sissy arm, and he'll probably be a career backup.
I don't know where to begin, here.

A) You're assuming he'll suck, and have absolutely no evidence to support your opinion. There's a reason Cleveland traded up, and that's because the other teams that would have drafted a QB in the first place were coming up. It's not like other QBs were drafted in that time. Only JaMarcus was taken ahead of him in terms of QBs.

B) Akili Smith sucked in the NFL. But he was a great college QB who turned into a great pro prospect. Good enough for NFL scouts to think he was worthy of a top-5 pick. After he got to the pros, he sucked. You can blame that on a number of things. Injuries, a lack of a supporting cast, poor coaching at the pro level, but not what happened in college.

C) I don't see how he has a sissy arm. But if he did, then how is that against Weis? It would mean he turned a QB with an awful arm into a first round pick by making him a fantastic college QB. As far as recruiting goes, coaches don't give two shits about how good of a pro prospect a guy is, but how he'll help the college team. If Quinn never pans out in the NFL, Notre Dame fans won't discount his near-Heisman win and great play.
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Yeaaaaaaah....no. EJ Manuel is going to be coached by Jimbo Fisher, and Pryor by Jim Tressell. They won't be busts. Your God Dayne Crist won't amount to **** at Notre Dame.
Dayne dominated the toughest league in the nation already, no QB plays the comp he does. Dayne also already outperformed Manuel at the elite 11 camp, Manuel will be another Xavier Lee. I already made my case about Pryor before.
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No, EJ won't be like Xavier Lee. EJ Manuel has something Xavier Lee doesn't have. WORK ETHIC.
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I'd like the record to show that I'm not a big Crist fan, and I think Manuel will be an absolute star. But to say that coaching has anything to do with it is insane.
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im probally gonna get ripped apart for this... AJ Green cause Georgia dosent have a good track record of producing elite recievers, which is why Calvin Johnson made a great move at GT he woulda been killed in georgia's offense

same with Christ unless he decommits like he shoulda a long time ago but i hear hes a firm ND commit so thers no way Weis is benching Clausen so hes kinda stuck...

Jermie Calhoun or Justin Johnson, whoever ends up having to change their position, think AD and DJ Wolfe
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same with Christ unless he decommits like he shoulda a long time ago but i hear hes a firm ND commit so thers no way Weis is benching Clausen so hes kinda stuck...
Really, that won't hurt him too much. Clausen will be a soph next year, and Crist can redshirt. Then if Clausen leaves after his junior year, Crist would be the probable starter as a RS sophomore.
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I think Pryor has the highest bust potential, but he also has easily the highest upside.
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