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Old 01-01-2008, 11:45 PM    (permalink
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Dayne dominated the toughest league in the nation already, no QB plays the comp he does. Dayne also already outperformed Manuel at the elite 11 camp, Manuel will be another Xavier Lee. I already made my case about Pryor before.
What exactly makes up the toughest competition in the nation that Crist faced? With all the high schools in the nation and how different each state is, how could you possibly make a statement like that? There's way too many varibles to know what the toughest competition is at the high school level.

What makes Crist accomplishments any better then a guy like Jacory Harris? He led Miami Northwestern to 2 straight undefeated seasons and had them ranked as the number 1 team in all of High School football. It's not like Florida is a sloutch when it comes to football. We produce some of the nations top talent every year.

I just don't see how you can make a statement like that about Crist when there are other QBs that deserve just as much if not more credit for their play then Crist.
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Really, that won't hurt him too much. Clausen will be a soph next year, and Crist can redshirt. Then if Clausen leaves after his junior year, Crist would be the probable starter as a RS sophomore.
and thats just best case scanerio chances are clausen wont be good enough for the nfl draft i know hes alot older than most and wants to get to the nfl and not be like Weinke... Joe Montanas son also will walk on but im not expecting him to play
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and thats just best case scanerio chances are clausen wont be good enough for the nfl draft i know hes alot older than most and wants to get to the nfl and not be like Weinke... Joe Montanas son also will walk on but im not expecting him to play
Dude has an ego, I wouldn't doubt him leaving anyway.
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What exactly makes up the toughest competition in the nation that Crist faced? With all the high schools in the nation and how different each state is, how could you possibly make a statement like that? There's way too many varibles to know what the toughest competition is at the high school level.

What makes Crist accomplishments any better then a guy like Jacory Harris? He led Miami Northwestern to 2 straight undefeated seasons and had them ranked as the number 1 team in all of High School football. It's not like Florida is a sloutch when it comes to football. We produce some of the nations top talent every year.

I just don't see how you can make a statement like that about Crist when there are other QBs that deserve just as much if not more credit for their play then Crist.
I do like Jacoby Harris once he gains a little beef he could be a great one I liked what i saw on tape of him... I personally think he'll be playin on sundays maybe not at QB if he dosent gain weight but somewhere
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I think Pryor has the highest bust potential, but he also has easily the highest upside.
agreed. I don't really know If Pryor will be a bust or not, but Jeannette does not play the top teams in PA.
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Pryor is more likely to win 3 Heisman's than to bust.
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Pryor is more likely to win 3 Heisman's than to bust.
I am more likely to win the lottery twice than Pryor is to win 3 Heisman trophies.
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Dayne dominated the toughest league in the nation already, no QB plays the comp he does. Dayne also already outperformed Manuel at the elite 11 camp, Manuel will be another Xavier Lee. I already made my case about Pryor before.
Where did you hear that he outperformed EJ Manuel? One of Rivals recruiting experts said he was the best quarterback there.
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With ND's depth at QB, I would say Dayne Crist is probably the best choice to bust. I'm pretty sure either him or Clausen will be transferring within a year anyways, one of them is going to be a bust.

Disagree big-time on AJ Green, with Beast-shon and Staffords massive cannon I think Green is going to help Georgia win a National Champioinship in the next two years.

Patrick Johnson, imo, will be the BEST and is least likely to bust. Never seen as fluid athlete as him, his size, at cornerback.

I could see Ethan Johnson busting with the injury history and NDs propensity to sub on the DL.
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Brady Quinn was a first round pick in April. Thanks for playing, though.
Joey Harrington, Tim Couch, and Ryan Leaf were first round picks too....

Thanks for playing, though.
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I do like Jacoby Harris once he gains a little beef he could be a great one I liked what i saw on tape of him... I personally think he'll be playin on sundays maybe not at QB if he dosent gain weight but somewhere
Dude, If he doesn't play QB, he can't play anywhere else. He's slow as dirt. He can move around in the pocket and avoid rushers but he aint running away from anyone anytime soon.

It's QB or bust for him. And as much as I like the kid, I doubt he'll be anything more then a backup in the NFL.
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Joey Harrington, Tim Couch, and Ryan Leaf were first round picks too....

Thanks for playing, though.
That has nothing to do with it. The guy said that Crist would be a bust because of the coaching he'll receive. The other guy countered by saying Charlie Weis has a track record of producing good quarterbacks (which he does). If Charlie Weis turns Crist into a 1st round pick, he's done pretty damn well, and it has nothing to do with how well he performs in the Pros.
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Dayne Crist or Shane Hale. Also, when did Omar Hunter become a 5*?
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First of all, im probably the only person here to have actually seen EJ play in person so yay me!
Nor do I think him, Pryor, or Crist will become busts.
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Crist looks pretty good today.

I would say Boo Boo because he is 5-9 or Marcus Forston because he tends to take some plays off.
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I would have to agree with Boo Boo, as you said he is small in stature.
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Crist looks pretty good today.

I would say Boo Boo because he is 5-9 or Marcus Forston because he tends to take some plays off.
Did you see Marcus Forston play today? His name was called a couple times for good plays, he was never ever pushed back from the LOS and he was constantly beating his man even if it didn't end in a sack.

He was called the best defensive player on the field during practice.

How on earth does that sound like a bust? If anything he is one of the more sure bets to contribute from day 1.
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PRACTICE. He looked good in the game and didn't appear to take plays off. I just went with from what I have heard.
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PRACTICE. He looked good in the game and didn't appear to take plays off. I just went with from what I have heard.
So you heard someone say something about him and just assumed he'd be a bust?
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So you heard someone say something about him and just assumed he'd be a bust?
Why not? If you heard someone was lazy and didn't practice, wouldn't you think they would bust as well?
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So you heard someone say something about him and just assumed he'd be a bust?
Isn't that EXACTLY what this thread is about? We're posting our opinions on who we think will be a bust based upon the information that we have heard...just because you like the guy doesn't mean others have to.
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Simply looking at Rivals only 5 stars...

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Why does everybody keep bringing up Crist?
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Why does everybody keep bringing up Crist?
Because he's got no one to block for him, for starters, and he may not beat out Clausen.
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Because he's got no one to block for him, for starters, and he may not beat out Clausen.
i dont think he will.
I think of it this way.
2008: Clausen, Crist RDS
2009: Clausen, Crist back-up
2010: Clausen leaves early maybe, if not 2nd year for Crist.
2011: Crist=JR.
2012: Crist=Sr.
(this is not including any QB that ND recruits.)
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