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Old 01-09-2008, 10:24 AM    (permalink
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I think the Falcons should hire their GM first before interviewing HC candidates. You need the GM to run the show with the HC that he chooses.
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I think the Falcons should hire their GM first before interviewing HC candidates. You need the GM to run the show with the HC that he chooses.
I think that everyone is fairly clear that the GM needs to be hired before the HC - including Blank, thankfully.

League rules necessitated interviewing Garnett, Caldwell etc in the past week. I'm confident that the new GM would have an interview with any candidate before an HC was chosen. It's not as if there's any rule against second interviews - in fact, they're common for most senior employment roles.
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More contact with Heckert (also more McNabb amusement...).

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/spor...laymakers.html

Would be increasingly surprised if Heckert is not the guy.
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Heckert is looking to be about ready to lock in...hear we're going to be talking to Pete Carrol as a HC...what would you guys think about that? I'm not so ready to try out another college coach...
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3188045

New information. If the Falcons hire Pete Carroll, that means that he will have full personnel control. If that is the case, then Heckert cannot take the Falcons job because it would represent a lateral move, not a promotion.
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Guess then we wouldn't have a GM and McKay would still have more say than us fans want him to have. But with him guiding Carroll it could be good...maybe...I dunno...but if we do get Pete it could mean we'll be looking at a guy like Rey as our top pick...
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You would still have a GM. Just not one with final personnel say. The Eagles gave Andy Reid final say on personnel, but Tom Heckert is the GM. There will be someone running the scouting and operations other than Carroll in this case. If they give Carroll final say, then Heckert cannot be your team's GM.
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Pete Carroll? Yuck! Hopefully not.
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I don't think it would be smart to go right back to a college coach after the failure with Bobby Petrino.
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Wouldn't it be crazy if we could somehow pull in Heckert and McNabb. I think he still has a couple of quality years left in him, and that would give us the flexibility to draft either Run DMc or Jake Long. Just thinking about it makes me feel like our offense isn't that far off from being damn solid.
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Yea we will gladly keep him.
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Um, the Eagles are keeping McNabb. If the Falcons wanted him, it would cost them their first rounder at least. That's assuming he was even on the market...

Again, if Carroll is the coach, Heckert cannot sign on as GM because it would be a lateral move, which is not allowed under NFL rules.
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I've warmed up to the Carroll idea a little bit, but I would still rather get Tom Heckert and Steve Spagnuolo.
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That is a smarter combo than Carroll and a personnel guy answering to Pete Carroll, IMO. Heckert is probably the best candidate for the job, but I think he would want to hire his own HC. Makes sense, since he's supposed to be the boss, no?
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That is a smarter combo than Carroll and a personnel guy answering to Pete Carroll, IMO. Heckert is probably the best candidate for the job, but I think he would want to hire his own HC. Makes sense, since he's supposed to be the boss, no?
That's why I mentioned Steve Spagnuolo, who used to coach in Philadelphia. But I do agree that it wouldn't make sense to hire and GM and then force a coach on him.
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Carroll would be a horrible selection.

And the west coast offense would be even worse if we bring in Heckert and he brings in the west coast offense.


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And the west coast offense would be even worse if we bring in Heckert and he brings in the west coast offense.
What is wrong with the west coast offense?
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While I think Pete Carroll is not a good move at all, Im hoping it happens so you don't take Spagnuola from us.

He's ours dammit. You can have Greg Williams when Synder doesn't hire him as HC.
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NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Pete Carroll has no interest in becoming the Falcons' next head coach.

Schefter quotes a source close to Carroll who says that Pete is "not even entertaining the idea" of going to Atlanta, and that he has similar disinterest in the opening in Washington. "It's the wrong place, the wrong time, the wrong guy," said the source. Still, Schefter thinks there's a chance Arthur Blank could make a "recruiting" trip to Los Angeles to let Carroll know just how much money he'd be willing to drop on the silver-haired Trojan.
YES! I am glad the team dodged that bullet.
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Wow thank God. As I was reading this thread, I was about to say that if Carroll became our HC, I would not be a Falcon fan until he got fired. I would switch over to the Texans for a year or so.

It seems as if Heckert is going to be our GM and either Garrett or Spagnuola as our HC. Not bad.
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What is wrong with the west coast offense?
It is boring, slow, inconsistent, and almost never ran right nowadays. Only Seattle and Philladelphia run it correctly and I doubt Holmgren or Reid come here. The Packers do not even run a true west coast offense now adays. Even Reid desciples like Childress can not run it with success.

Every offense has WCO priciples, but a true west coast offense is rare for a reason nowadays. And the running game suffers in it.
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I really want Heckert and Spagnuola...
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I want this to end...sooner rather than later...so we can at least know what offensive and defensive schemes we're going to be looking forward to.
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Wow thank God. As I was reading this thread, I was about to say that if Carroll became our HC, I would not be a Falcon fan until he got fired. I would switch over to the Texans for a year or so.

It seems as if Heckert is going to be our GM and either Garrett or Spagnuola as our HC. Not bad.
I'm seeing Cladwell over Garrett, and Spagnuolo was blocked.
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I for one am shocked that the Falcons would even consider signing another high profile college coach in Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll has had so much success in the college ranks that I could see him pulling a Saban/Petrino if things don't work out after a year or two.
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