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Old 01-21-2008, 12:15 AM    (permalink
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I guarantee 90% of the linemen in the league have better hands than Kenton Keith.
Typical Colts fan answer. Tries to find a way around everything.
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Old 01-21-2008, 12:18 AM    (permalink
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Say what want. Take from what you want.

All I can say, is that if Manning is that great, why isnt he where Brady is?
What i said has just about as much to do with my my senile grandmother as it does Peyton Manning
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Old 01-21-2008, 12:21 AM    (permalink
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Dropped or tipped are essentially the same thing. The control of the ball are out of the QB's hands. All Im saying is that if your gonna save Manning's grace like that, do the same for Brady.
On tipped passes the blame can be put on the QB, he didn't put it in the right place. When you hit the receiver in BOTH hands you are given a pass on that INT.

If you put Manning on the Patriots, they win just as many Super Bowls. If you put Brady on the Colts they are a completely different team.
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2 Years, 2 Super Bowl rings for the Manning's.
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Old 01-21-2008, 12:25 AM    (permalink
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On tipped passes the blame can be put on the QB, he didn't put it in the right place. When you hit the receiver in BOTH hands you are given a pass on that INT.

If you put Manning on the Patriots, they win just as many Super Bowls. If you put Brady on the Colts they are a completely different team.
I disagree. Brady has shown he can make plays. And plenty of them he can make. When he is called upon to throw the ball x number of times he will. Most of the time, prior to this year, it wasnt necessary for him to throw as many times. Was it as necessary for Manning to throw that many times in a game? Prob not. I think if they ran the ball more, they would have been just fine, no different than they did finish.
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Eh, I think there's a few things people shouldn't get confused about. While yes, there are some Giants fans who are utterly annoying, you get that with any teams fans. If there's one thing I've learned, don't base a fan base of what the media depicts or the fact you've had a bad run in with a couple of that teams fans.

Is it our fault that the media over hypes the Boston and New York sports teams? Not at all, really.

I really don't see what the problem is. I think this is going to be a great Super Bowl, but maybe it's because my team is in it. I look at it like the Undefeated vs the Underdog. Your typical, David vs Goliath plot. How will it end? I have no idea, but that's why they play the games.
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What i said has just about as much to do with my my senile grandmother as it does Peyton Manning
Are you not comprehending? Im pretty sure that this is a debate about Brady and Manning.
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Typical Colts fan answer. Tries to find a way around everything.
Excuse the language, but what the **** are you talking about? I was not making excuses or 'finding away around everything', whatever that may be. I was simply stating Kenton Keith catches like Stephen Hawking.
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I'm not going to go into a specific argument on every little detail, because it looks like I've helped deliver a Manning/Brady debate into the SB XLII thread, but I'll respond to this:

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Again, are we gonna turn this into a debate? All I can say, and please answer it without the obvious excuses. If Manning was so dominant in the regular season, why didny he beat Tom Brady when they had to go to Foxboro those years? Why does Manning have 1 ring, and Bray 3? Please.
The answer to the above: Bill Belichick. An additional answer as for why Manning only has one ring so far: Tony Dungy.

Regardless, it's Giants and Patriots in Super Bowl XLII. Both teams put on a very good game in Week 17, when both coaches wisely played their starters for the full game with full effort. Hopefully they do the same in the rematch, inside a great stadium in Arizona.
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Are you not comprehending? Im pretty sure that this is a debate about Brady and Manning.
Geo said Tom Brady was overrated, you brought up a terrible sample(which wasn't even correct) and compared him to Peyton Manning, i said you were wrong, which you were, than you called me a typical Colts fan. Forgive me, but i'm struggling to see how this is a Manning v Brady debate.

Oh wait, maybe it's the fact it's in a superbowl thread....oh sorry, that just makes you even more wrong.
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as a Jets fan this game really just makes me sick..I hate both teams so much
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you're all on crack, brady lives off of the d and the leg of his kicker, which leads me to my next point. no vinatieri no bowl.
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Bye week: hurts or helps the Giants? Belichick now has two weeks' worth of preparation, we've seen what he does with that, but the Giants played three straight road playoff games and can get healthier.

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How are people calling a blowout when the last game was a 3 point difference?

I'm pulling for NY but I hate Eli.
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Yeah, I don't know wtf Vegas is thinking with the 14-point spread it released tonight (according to ESPN News). That's lunacy.
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Yeah, I don't know wtf Vegas is thinking with the 14-point spread it released tonight (according to ESPN News). That's lunacy.
They put it that high because no one is going to put money on the Giants with a smaller spread.
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Bye week: hurts or helps the Giants? Belichick now has two weeks' worth of preparation, we've seen what he does with that, but the Giants played three straight road playoff games and can get healthier.

Thoughts?
I think it benefits both teams. I personally dont think it will cool down the Giants. To me, I likent he Giants clbuhouse of this year to that of the Red Sox of 2004. The "group of Idiots". I mean, look that the way the team is right now. They are joking around, having fun and just palying football. Anyone else see the comparison? Especially Strahan.

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Yeah, I don't know wtf Vegas is thinking with the 14-point spread it released tonight (according to ESPN News). That's lunacy.
There is a lot of time. It will go down over the next 2 weeks. However, I dont see it dropping to less than 7 points.
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Boring...

I wanted to see a shootout b/w the two high powered offenses, GB vs. NE (the poetic irony is that GB's high powered offense lost them the game, lol)
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Boring...

I wanted to see a shootout b/w the two high powered offenses, GB vs. NE (the poetic irony is that GB's high powered offense lost them the game, lol)
Well, 34-31 in week 17 was a solid shootout. I think that we could see similar results this time around. Perhaps even a little more scoring.
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I wanted to see a shootout b/w the two high powered offenses, GB vs. NE (the poetic irony is that GB's high powered offense lost them the game, lol)
But it's New York vs. Boston! When do you ever get to hear about that?!
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Giants proved they have the best offense in the NFC, neither Dallas and Green Bay could outdo them. Eli is playing fantastic right now and the passing offense is delivering, and that's wearing defenses for the two headed-monster of Jacobs and Bradshaw in the second half of games.
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Just when it looks like Amani Toomer might stick around, he drops balls again as he did today and the offense suffers for it as before.
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Giants proved they have the best offense in the NFC, neither Dallas and Green Bay could outdo them. Eli is playing fantastic right now and the passing offense is delivering, and that's wearing defenses for the two headed-monster of Jacobs and Bradshaw in the second half of games.
Wouldn't say "best offense" exactly. I'd say "best team".
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