Falcons expected to name Mike Smith head coach - Page 2

niel89 · 01-23-2008, 12:27 PM

sweeeeet. now Rex Ryan can come back to the ravens.

falconsrule · 01-23-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unseen

Interesting comments made by former Jag Marcellus Wiley on First Take.

He basically said that Mike Smith was a figurehead in Jacksonville, and that Jack Del Rio and even Mike Peterson were the defensive coordinator more than Mike Smith. He said that no one in the locker room really respected him, and that he was just a guy that stood in the front of the locker room.

Marcellus Wiley is Mr.Sour grapes he seems to always have a problem with someone or something so that really dont hold any weight with me.

Thunder&Lightning · 01-23-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by scar988

sounds good to me. hopefully we bring in Rex Ryan for DC.

ya that would be awesome for the Falcons if they got r ryan too

iloxygenil · 01-23-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

Taylor vs. Abraham = Push? I'd take an aging Taylor over Abraham any day of the week.

Roth vs Anderson = Anderson. Maybe only because Anderson was a rookie. Otherwise I don't think you can that definitively. I wasn't impressed with Anderson at all. I had him pegged for a bust and still do.

FOOLISHNESS...this is totally a push. Abe is one of the best pass rushers in the league...absolute monster...constant double triple and quadruple at times...give me a break. Abe was the focus against the other teams when it was pass rushing situations...

Roth v. Anderson...push too maybe...but Anderson is very good against the run and towards the end of the season really started getting some good pressure on the QBs.

Jughead10 · 01-23-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by iloxygenil

FOOLISHNESS...this is totally a push. Abe is one of the best pass rushers in the league...absolute monster...constant double triple and quadruple at times...give me a break. Abe was the focus against the other teams when it was pass rushing situations...

Roth v. Anderson...push too maybe...but Anderson is very good against the run and towards the end of the season really started getting some good pressure on the QBs.

Abraham is one of the best passh rushers in the league when he wants to play and when he isn't hurt. Which isn't as often as most want. Jason Taylor is a borderline Hall of Famer and was DPOY just a year ago. There is also something called defending the run. Abraham tends to forget that sometimes as well.

JagHombre22 · 01-23-2008, 01:33 PM

Mike Smith will make a great head coach...His coaching is phenomenal....he tends to make things happen when you think that nothing could be made with the type of personnel that he has...

Vic Ketchman said it perfectly in his daily column (senior writer for Jaguars.com)...he said that in the past two years the Jaguars defense has been decimated by injuries...and the past two years they've statistically been very good on defense despite those injuries...He got great production out of sammy knight and aaron glenn...and he coached up Derek Landri and Jeremy Mincey...

good hire atlanta....

Shiver · 01-23-2008, 03:13 PM

What I like about this hiring: this move shows that Tom Dimitroff is in control, and he isn't a puppet to Blank and/or McKay. Smith got the job because his ideology syncs with Dimitroff. Another reason is that it isn't a 'big splash' hire. Arthur Blank has tried to go after the high profile hirings and they haven't worked. This is definitely not like the Petrino hire, or the coaches that Blank pursued before he hired Dimitroff.

mqtirishfan · 01-23-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

I hoping it is.

How great would it be if Spags got the Washington job? :D

iloxygenil · 01-23-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jughead10

Abraham is one of the best passh rushers in the league when he wants to play and when he isn't hurt. Which isn't as often as most want. Jason Taylor is a borderline Hall of Famer and was DPOY just a year ago. There is also something called defending the run. Abraham tends to forget that sometimes as well.

Just shows that you don't watch the Falcons...you just listen to what everyone in the media says about him. He's stellar against the run compared to what people say he is...he's very very good. He's an ELITE DE...and he wasn't injured at all last season, he got work in with a core trainer, and it really changed everything for him, something he had never known before allowed him to play healthy all season.

mqtirishfan · 01-23-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by iloxygenil

Just shows that you don't watch the Falcons...you just listen to what everyone in the media says about him. He's stellar against the run compared to what people say he is...he's very very good. He's an ELITE DE...and he wasn't injured at all last season, he got work in with a core trainer, and it really changed everything for him, something he had never known before allowed him to play healthy all season.

Which helped him get a whole 20 less tackles and one less sack than Jason Taylor in his second full season since '02. To call the two equal is insane.

Shiver · 01-23-2008, 04:11 PM

Abraham is very good, but he isn't elite.

bsaza2358 · 01-23-2008, 04:17 PM

Abraham has the talent to be an elite DE, but he has problems holding up over a full season and can disappear at times. He is very, very good and probably underrated at this point. He can play the run, but he is a better pass rusher. I don't think he's dominant against the run like other DE's, but he's decent.

Shiver · 01-23-2008, 04:19 PM

He's 10/12 on the DE rankings I think. He stayed healthy last year, so hopefully that continues.

ATLDirtyBirds · 01-23-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

He's 10/12 on the DE rankings I think. He stayed healthy last year, so hopefully that continues.

I think that's fair. If he can stay healthy, and put up another season like this season, I'd move him into the elite class.

mqtirishfan · 01-23-2008, 04:34 PM

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I think that's fair. If he can stay healthy, and put up another season like this season, I'd move him into the elite class.

Another season where 11 DEs have more sacks than him, and he only has 32 tackles?

ATLDirtyBirds · 01-23-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mqtirishfan

Another season where 11 DEs have more sacks than him, and he only has 32 tackles?

Stats don't tell you the whole story. He had no sacks from the other starting defensive end, and the other main pass rusher (Rod Coleman) barely played. Considering he did what he did with mainly double teams, yeah, another season like that.

yourfavestoner · 01-23-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Unseen

Interesting comments made by former Jag Marcellus Wiley on First Take.

He basically said that Mike Smith was a figurehead in Jacksonville, and that Jack Del Rio and even Mike Peterson were the defensive coordinator more than Mike Smith. He said that no one in the locker room really respected him, and that he was just a guy that stood in the front of the locker room.

Not too surprising to me. Del Rio has essentially run that defense since the day he got there. Smith was a serviceable defensive coordinator, but he's not irreplaceable by any means. If we get a guy like Ryan or promote Dave Campo, I think our defense actually has a chance of being better. It definitely won't get worse, though.

Shiver · 01-23-2008, 06:12 PM

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Recently-fired Dolphins offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey might not remain unemployed long.

We've learned Mularkey is in the process of deciding between offers to become the Bucs' quarterbacks coach or the Falcons' offensive coordinator. He met with coach Jon Gruden over breakfast in Mobile, Ala. on Tuesday and a decision is forthcoming.

http://blogs.tampabay.com/bucs/2008/...ey-to-dec.html

bearsfan_51 · 01-23-2008, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by scar988

Arthur Blank has a perfectly fine idea of what he's doing. brought in Dimitroff, and now Smith, who should bring in schemers at OC and DC that are smart enough to use our players talents.

Dimitroff comes off as a total idiot. I listened to his press conference and it was nothing but incoherent rambling. He looks like he's about 13 years old.

The Wiley comments are really interesting. It seems like nobody in Atlanta has a ******* idea what they are doing. Then again, I'm sure you'll reply with some outrageous and homerish remarks, as is your forte. Remember when you yelled at everyone for saying the Falcons would win less than 10-11 games, and then they won like 5? I do.

bearsfan_51 · 01-23-2008, 06:24 PM

I would also like to note that iloxygenil has said in the past two days the following.

1) Chris Redman is a serviceable starting quarterback in the NFL.

2) He likes the coaching hire because Mike Smith sounds like a tough name.

I didn't know it was possible to make such laughable comments back to back, but you've clearly pulled it off. Well done sir.

Shiver · 01-23-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

I would also like to note that iloxygenil has said in the past two days the following.

1) Chris Redman is a serviceable starting quarterback in the NFL.

2) He likes the coaching hire because Mike Smith sounds like a tough name.

I didn't know it was possible to make such laughable comments back to back, but you've clearly pulled it off. Well done sir.

1. Those comments were much to my chagrin.
2. He did? I must have missed that..

bigbluedefense · 01-23-2008, 06:28 PM

Little John Flowers (runningback) has the toughest name in the NFL hands down.

Keep hating haters. shrug em off Johnny boy. shrug em off.

bearsfan_51 · 01-23-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiver

1. Those comments were much to my chagrin.
2. He did? I must have missed that..

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...but Mike Smith...sounds like a good strong name to me. I just don't know anything about him

For your viewing pleasure.

bigbluedefense · 01-23-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

For your viewing pleasure.

i thought he was just joking. *shrug*

Shiver · 01-23-2008, 06:39 PM

My take on this: could be better, could be worse. At least it seems like they are trying to get a GM and HC on the same page. Whether that continuity pays off remains to be seen. I expected one or both of the following situations to occur:

1. Arthur Blank makes some crazy 'splash' hire, like Pete Carroll.
2. Or the Falcons' hire a "GM-lite" and then he tows the line with Blank/McKay/whichever big name that is the HC.

Instead they hire a name that isn't well known, but is generally regarded as a good football coach. For every Marcellus Wiley there is half a dozen coaches/players/analysts who praised Smith and applauded the hire. And best of all it seems that it was the GM's call to make aforementioned hire.

As for the Dimitroff press conference. Quite frankly I don't care that he isn't a polished public speaker. The only times you ever hear from the GM in situations like that mean that something bad happened; e.g, Rich McKay talking about the Michael Vick fiasco, the firing of a head coach, etc. I think the fact that he was the director of college scouting for one of, if not the best, drafting teams of this decade speaks for itself.