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Old 01-25-2008, 07:12 PM    (permalink
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ohhh nooo conflicting reports with teams and espn!!!!!

Did Mort report this one too? Is Eli's shoulder still seperated?
lol i got that feeling to, dont if people remember but when Adam from NFLTA said art shell will be fired the raiders didnt deny anything and he was fired, but this time Al does deny it...does this mean hes not going anywhere
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I could see Kiffin in Atlanta. But that would be the smart thing to do, so who knows.
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Wasn't Kiffin pursuing some of the big college openings and this angered Davis? Fair enough really, I mean if he wanted to go to Michigan/WVU etc and only now wants to stay with the Raiders because he didn't get them, I can understand why Davis might be PO'd.

Anyway, it seems embarrassing for the NFL that the head coach for the North senior bowl squad might not be a HC in a few more days/weeks.
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this is a classic case of BSPN rearing it's ugly head again with no real credible source to name in the situation, it's a slow week in between Super Bowl coverage and it seems that Raider drama is always good for making headlines. When will the media stop making unfounded rumors about Davis, the man is a legend and people bag on him but how many other franchises have been to 5 superbowls and almost one in every decade? not many can boast that kind of track record. Hate him all you want but it's him that got bagged for hiring Kiffin only to have the media backtrack on their laughter and admit that Kiffin was a good decision. Long story short, this is classis Chris Mortensen ********.
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Coaching the Raiders has to be the absolutel worst career move you could make. You're basically guaranteed to coach a terrible team for 1 year and then get fired.

It takes alot for me to feel bad for Raiders fans...but I almost do.
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Kiffin won twice as many games as Art Shell did in 2006 . . . That's improvement, lol.

Al Davis makes Ford, Sr. look like a rocket surgeon.
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I could see Kiffin in Atlanta. But that would be the smart thing to do, so who knows.
...As what?
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Probably because he won't have to pay him he remainder of his contract if he resigns.


We're honestly getting to Marge Schott levels. The NFL needs to step in and take the Raiders away from Al Davis. Yes it's a drastic and controversial move, but he's losing his mind. Coordinators were already turning down the job (hence why he had to hire a nobody from a college program). I wouldn't be suprised if the next coach is from high school, or Davis himself. Hopefully for Raiders' fans sake Rob Ryan will want it.
Agreed, The NFL needs to step in. Al Davis has to be to stopped, I don't know what to think anymore... If Kiffin is gone get this, Kirk Morrison is going into this 4th season next year and he will be going on his 4th Head Coach. This is just insane!
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Silver and Black til I die but man this team is in such turmoil from top to bottom. Al Davis promised Kiffin he would have more control over staff and personal matters than recent Raiders coaches. I guess some things never change.
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Germans know how bad Davis sucks? Is there a money shot?
actually he sucks good without his denture
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Offensive coordinator but Mularkey has been hired.
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Coaching the Raiders has to be the absolutel worst career move you could make. You're basically guaranteed to coach a terrible team for 1 year and then get fired.

It takes alot for me to feel bad for Raiders fans...but I almost do.
Its great financially though.
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I hope this isnt true but more and more these things happen year after year and i cant stop thinking how can it not be true. As a raider fan i try to hang on with every string to stick with Al Davis and his decisions and year after year another string of my loyalty gets cut off by him. Im just tired of having no stability im tired that a team goes no where year after year and yet i still have hope which others dont. I would love to have a team that has atleast a playoff chance every year a team that doesnt always have to be the best but atleast be there at the end of the season for a shot and im a firm believer that cant happen anymore unless Al is gone. I have a feeling AL wants to win one more before he departs from this world. So he wants to see major results fast and if not he wont waste his time to have them stick around thus causing no stability in the organization. I think it is time for the NFL to do something its gotten ridiculous and im sick of hopeing for the best for my team and getting the worst in the end. Kiffin is the first coach i have had hopes for since gruden he has done some good things for this team he deserves to stay.
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This whole situation is making that franchise look like a joke. Al's had a nice run (well, twenty years ago), but it's time for someone else to run the show.
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This whole situation is making that franchise look like a joke. Al's had a nice run (well, twenty years ago), but it's time for someone else to run the show.
hahahahhahaha like that would ever happen, i think theres a better chance that Tom Brady gets cut after this year then that
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hahahahhahaha like that would ever happen, i think theres a better chance that Tom Brady gets cut after this year then that
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That sounds like Al Davis to me.

But at $2 million a year I could put up with a lot before quitting.
On top of that, this is a great career move for Kiffin. With all this that is going on (Raider fans have been watching this develop since King mentioned it after the Jaguars lost in the playoffs) and more and more there is a rallying of the media and other coaches around Kiffin while the negative attitude toward Davis has gone from "old and getting senile" to "absolutely ridiculous old man." Hiring Shell and Walsh was one thing, now the move of trying to force Kiffin to resign so that he doesn't have to pay him shifts him past Osama Bin Laden territory in terms of most easily hated person.

Kiffin's stock is sky rocketing around the league (and probably colleges too) for dealing with all this.

From a Raider fan who has stuck by Al Davis through thick and thin, this final act of sending the resignation letter for Kiffin to sign is the final straw. The Kiffin hiring had actually gained respect from me, but now...

There is no way the Raiders reach any respectable level until Al Davis is gone. That is guaranteed, unless as someone (I think bf_51) mentioned, Ryan takes the head coaching position. Not a single respectable coach will take a job with the Raiders. Not a single unrespectable coach will take a job with the Raiders. As someone mentioned again, Davis may be forced to glean the high school coaching ranks to find someone to take a job with him.

I never thought I'd say it, but it's time for Davis to go.
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Is Al competing with Dan Snyder for the worst decisions in sports, 2008? Seriously, asking a coach to resign after one year...? And it's not like this is a one off.
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