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Old 01-25-2008, 11:59 PM    (permalink
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Chargers' Kaeding kicked for 5 games with broken plant leg

How about some love for the kicker?
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wow...what! IS that whole team on some sort of LSD or steroids or something...damn...
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wow...what! IS that whole team on some sort of LSD or steroids or something...damn...
Nate on steroids? If he was, then he got cheated out of his money.
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who is making these decision to have these guys play injured, next we are going to find out that Chris Chambers played with a broken hand
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who is making these decision to have these guys play injured, next we are going to find out that Chris Chambers played with a broken hand
exactly, isnt the whole job of the medical staff and coaches to prevent these guys from further injuries. Playing with broken bones, bad sprains, and partially torn MCL's hitting a already broken bone or partially torn MCL's could turn out really bad.
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it is very possible that LT is actually hurt pretty badly and that no one knows about it, like torn ACL type of stuff
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hmm and i thought he sucked...probs to Kaeding
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That's some crazy stuff.
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That's weird, the team reported it as a i think a bruised plant leg, which was why you saw that kick bend so weird against Tenn...also helps explain the poor kickoffs against NE.....

damn even the kicker sucked it up.
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The players. I'm sure you have seen Playmakers. I have played with a broken hand and cracked ribs, and that was in high school.
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Wow, Kaeding kicked with a broken leg and Rivers played with a torn ACL? That's pretty gutsy. And it is the athletic trainers job to diagnose injuries, but if a player is deadset to return there isn't much the athletic trainers can do to keep the player out.
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The players. I'm sure you have seen Playmakers. I have played with a broken hand and cracked ribs, and that was in high school.
upper body is completely different you can avoid being hurt all the time with those but when you have a leg injury no matter what you do you will feel the pain, i have experience trying to play with both, broken right arm was nothing my partial torn ACL hurt
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Injury shinjury. He's a choker and really? A broken leg? Is that supposed to be an excuse for kicking poorly? What does one have to do with the other? Next you'll be telling me a tennis player with a broken arm and a torn bicep would be at some sort of a disadvantage. These men are millionaires, that means that they should be able to kick a 50 yard field goal with only one leg. They should be able to turn on a dime with two broken ankles. After all, they're rich!

Seriously though, why were these guys on the field? Were they that afraid of putting Volek in there? If so, why is he even on the team? He's supposed to be one of the best backup QB's in the NFL. The Chargers had a backup kicker, why didn't they use him more?

It seems more and more that the Chargers got as far as they did in spite of Norv Turner's coaching, not because of it.

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upper body is completely different you can avoid being hurt all the time with those but when you have a leg injury no matter what you do you will feel the pain, i have experience trying to play with both, broken right arm was nothing my partial torn ACL hurt
Thats not what I meant. Someone asked why he was allowed to play. I was just showing that the doctors and trainers don't really have a say in it. If I was able to play in HS with those injuries, guys in the NFL will be allowed to play as long as they are better than their backup.
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Seriously though, why were these guys on the field? Were they that afraid of putting Volek in there? If so, why is he even on the team? He's supposed to be one of the best backup QB's in the NFL. The Chargers had a backup kicker, why didn't they use him more?

It seems more and more that the Chargers got as far as they did in spite of Norv Turner's coaching, not because of it.

You're misinformed, and that little shot at Norv Turner is unnecessary.

The "backup kicker" was Dave Rayner, who was only in there as a KO specialist, and horrible at that. Kaeding is, for all his supposed playoff woes, an extremely accurate kicker.

Volek, although OT, did play. You might remember him leading the game winning drive in Indianapolis? In NE, Rivers played because A) he could, and B) with basically no LT or Gates, he was the heart and soul of the Charger offense. You can't put a guy who has thrown ten passes all season in front of the unbeaten Pats and expect the team to follow him. Rivers is the leader, and everyone played for him, and they gave the Pats a game. The guy's a competitor, and if he could walk onto that field, nobody was going to stop him.

Norv did more for the Chargers this year than Marty ever did during his tenure, I'm sick of people bashing him for bad reasons. Could any other coach in the league have gone into the defending Champion's house, short handed, and knock them out, and yet receive so little credit for it?
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Injury shinjury. He's a choker and really? A broken leg? Is that supposed to be an excuse for kicking poorly? What does one have to do with the other? Next you'll be telling me a tennis player with a broken arm and a torn bicep would be at some sort of a disadvantage. These men are millionaires, that means that they should be able to kick a 50 yard field goal with only one leg. They should be able to turn on a dime with two broken ankles. After all, they're rich!

Seriously though, why were these guys on the field? Were they that afraid of putting Volek in there? If so, why is he even on the team? He's supposed to be one of the best backup QB's in the NFL. The Chargers had a backup kicker, why didn't they use him more?

It seems more and more that the Chargers got as far as they did in spite of Norv Turner's coaching, not because of it.
U wanna tell me its not a big deal to kick with 1 broken leg?
seriously?
A tennis player with 2 broken arms would never...never ever win anything. Just like a Soccer Player with a broken leg. U have a disadvantage if ur injuried? An excuse? no. But when someone plays okay with all his hearts, he should get respect.
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U wanna tell me its not a big deal to kick with 1 broken leg?
seriously?
A tennis player with 2 broken arms would never...never ever win anything. Just like a Soccer Player with a broken leg. U have a disadvantage if ur injuried? An excuse? no. But when someone plays okay with all his hearts, he should get respect.
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You're misinformed, and that little shot at Norv Turner is unnecessary.

The "backup kicker" was Dave Rayner, who was only in there as a KO specialist, and horrible at that. Kaeding is, for all his supposed playoff woes, an extremely accurate kicker.

Volek, although OT, did play. You might remember him leading the game winning drive in Indianapolis? In NE, Rivers played because A) he could, and B) with basically no LT or Gates, he was the heart and soul of the Charger offense. You can't put a guy who has thrown ten passes all season in front of the unbeaten Pats and expect the team to follow him. Rivers is the leader, and everyone played for him, and they gave the Pats a game. The guy's a competitor, and if he could walk onto that field, nobody was going to stop him.

Norv did more for the Chargers this year than Marty ever did during his tenure, I'm sick of people bashing him for bad reasons. Could any other coach in the league have gone into the defending Champion's house, short handed, and knock them out, and yet receive so little credit for it?
Secondly, Rivers played becuase he could? He had a torn ACL right? Didn't exactly light it up, right? If you can't put in someone who isn't the starter, whats the point of even having backups? If Volek didn't start of the game, it became obvious during the game that he needed to go in or the Chargers weren't going to have a chance with an injured Rivers behind the helm.

As for Marty, no, Norv didn't do more than Marty. Marty couldn't get past the Patriots. Neither could Norv. It doesn't matter what round the game in. Same opponent, same result.
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Secondly, Rivers played becuase he could? He had a torn ACL right? Didn't exactly light it up, right? If you can't put in someone who isn't the starter, whats the point of even having backups? If Volek didn't start of the game, it became obvious during the game that he needed to go in or the Chargers weren't going to have a chance with an injured Rivers behind the helm.
They weren't going to have a chance with Volek either. Rivers was able to play, he made one really bad pass, and his other intercpetion is on Chmabers and a great play by Samuel. The only place he struggled was at the ten-ish yard lines, but he was able to drive the team down that far. Rivers could have played, and did play just fine. He needed too.

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As for Marty, no, Norv didn't do more than Marty. Marty couldn't get past the Patriots. Neither could Norv. It doesn't matter what round the game in. Same opponent, same result.
Thats the worst logic I've ever seen. It was in the AFCCG, last year we were out in divisionals. The opponent makes no difference, espeically considering last year's Patriots were nowhere near as good as this year's version as well. Norv did better then Marty did last year, that's undeniable. not only is it improbable Marty would have gotten the team past Tenn when LT was shut down, or Indy when we lost our starters, but Norv kept the team together and won, as underdogs, on the road, in the round which Marty lost in. You could try and argue that maybe Marty could have done the same thing, but I doubt that.
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Holy crap! This team has some gutsy players. Something to be said about guys like these manning up and playing in a win or go home situation. A lot of the Chargers talk way more than I would like but it's stuff like this that makes me happy they play here.

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Holy crap! This team has some gutsy players. Something to be said about guys like these manning up and playing in a win or go home situation. A lot of the Chargers talk way more than I would like but it's stuff like this that makes me happy they play here.

Rivers plays with no ACL 6 days after knee scope
Keading kicks with broken leg
Neal returns 3 weeks after having metal rod inserted into broken leg
Gates playing with dislocated toe
you forgot mike goff who played with two torn achilles tendons
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They weren't going to have a chance with Volek either. Rivers was able to play, he made one really bad pass, and his other intercpetion is on Chmabers and a great play by Samuel. The only place he struggled was at the ten-ish yard lines, but he was able to drive the team down that far. Rivers could have played, and did play just fine. He needed too.
And why exactly wouldn't the Chargers have a chance with Volek? He's one of the best backup quarterbacks in the league, has proven in the past that he can come into the game and play at a high level and you know what? Even without LT and Gates, the Chargers have a lot of talent on offense. Chris Chambers gave the Chargers something Marty never had as the team's HC. A respectable group of receivers.

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Thats the worst logic I've ever seen. It was in the AFCCG, last year we were out in divisionals. The opponent makes no difference, espeically considering last year's Patriots were nowhere near as good as this year's version as well. Norv did better then Marty did last year, that's undeniable.
Well, I'm denying it. The Chargers beat a hapless Titans team that barely squeaked into the playoffs and Colts team without several key players in the divisionals and the team that Marty couldn't beat, Norv couldn't beat either. And IMO, saying the opponent makes no difference when you've been eliminated from the playoffs by the same team two years in a row is the worst logic I've ever seen. And I've seen someone make an argument for the Redskins drafting Elton Brown third overall once upon a time.
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