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Old 01-26-2008, 03:28 PM    (permalink
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The NFL averted a labor war 2 years ago when outgoing commissioner Paul Tagliabue strong-armed the owners into agreeing to a collective-bargaining- agreement extension that gave the players 60 percent of the league's pot of gold. The owners can opt out of the deal in November, which seems almost a certainty right now. If that happens, 2009 would be the last capped year of the current agreement. There would be no salary cap in 2010, but the service requirement for free agency would jump from 4 to 6 years. "I think it's really common knowledge our last labor agreement is not our smartest move," Broncos owner Pat Bowlen told Jeff Legwold, of the Rocky Mountain News. "And I'm not talking about [just] the Denver Broncos. I'm talking about the [whole] league. We can't live with this deal."
http://msn.foxsports.com/rumors/nfl#6

It's the 7th story down. Hopefully this can be averted or some kind of change can be worked out.
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They had better come up with something or we could see another bitter stike in sports. The owners may not like the 60% figure but they could lose a lot more if it comes down to a strike.
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why the f*ck dont they just write in permanent salary cap and FA rules into the league. i really dont care AT ALL about whos making what kind of money, but i do care that theres a salary cap in place and also free agency, and losing those is what always scares me when this kind of thing pops up.....absolute BS is what it is.
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the super rich owners want to be able to buy their way to the super bowl
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why the f*ck dont they just write in permanent salary cap and FA rules into the league. i really dont care AT ALL about whos making what kind of money, but i do care that theres a salary cap in place and also free agency, and losing those is what always scares me when this kind of thing pops up.....absolute BS is what it is.
They can't do that. The players have to agree with the collective bargaining agreement.
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Think Snyder, Kraft, and Jones.
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True dat it would just kill the small market teams.
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Ugh....do we REALLY need to have this argument again?

Football would not become like baseball. If you don't understand why do some actual reasearch about the finances of both sports. Or just shut up.

If we got rid of the salary cap it would not make nearly the difference people think it would.
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Yes because football before the salary cap was exactly like baseball now. I don't understand this huge boner for "parity as a result of the cap".
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Yes because football before the salary cap was exactly like baseball now. I don't understand this huge boner for "parity as a result of the cap".
Well, now every year about 25+ teams have legit playoff hopes at the start of every season, and as a Steelers proved in 2005, once you make it in, anything can happen nowadays. Back then, there were about 4 teams with a legitimate shot at the championship every year. To show the impact the cap has had: from the 1980-1995 seasons, 6 teams won NFL Championships, from the 1996 season on, 8 teams won NFL Championships.
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http://www.forbes.com/2008/01/17/foo...hisSpeed=15000

1. Paul Allen, Seattle Seahawks

Net worth: $16.8 billion

2. Malcolm Glazer, Tampa Bay Bucs

Net worth: $2.5 billion

3. Wayne Huizenga, Miami Dolphins

Net Worth: $2.5 billion

4. Randolph Lerner, Cleveland Browns

Net Worth: $1.6 billion

5. Robert McNair, Houston Texans

Net Worth: $1.5 billion

6. Arthur Blank, Atlanta Falcons

Net Worth: $1.5 billion

7. Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys

Net Worth: $1.5 billion

8. Robert Kraft, New England Patriots

Net Worth: $1.4 billion

9. Steve Bisciotti, Baltimore Ravens

Net Worth: $1.3 billion

10. Daniel Snyder , Washington Redskins

Net Worth: $1 billion



Yeah, you're reading that right....#2-#10 put together are still 3 billion short of #1......hell you could count #2 twice and still be 500 million short of #1.
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Wow, apparently Malcolm Glazer bought the Bucs for "$192 billion in 1995." Sounds a tad bit exorbitant if you ask me.
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Net worth means little. Pretty hard to a pay a player money that's tied up in unrelated businesses and ventures. I think those who benefit most would be the teams that have the best net profit margins.
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Ugh....do we REALLY need to have this argument again?

Football would not become like baseball. If you don't understand why do some actual reasearch about the finances of both sports. Or just shut up.

If we got rid of the salary cap it would not make nearly the difference people think it would.
Well what kinda difference would it make?
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The Colts pay more for payroll than the Redskins do. In case anyone wanted to look that up too.
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I agree, revenues are more important, of course high net worth comes from having high revenue.

Im not surprised its being stopped. The rookie salaries alone is enough of a reason. The really good thing about the NFL is if they don't get an aggrement the season goes on.
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Well what kinda difference would it make?
Very little actually. The differece between baseball and football, in a nutshell, is that baseball negotiates the majority of their media contracts independently. That's why the Yankees, who play in a huge media market, are able to generate so much revenue (among other things).

In football, the bulk of the money is distributed equally. While it's true that some owners like Snyder could choose to spend his own wealth (as he already does), most owners are already spending about as much as their revenue streams allow without going into the red.

The big debate isn't about how the money is being shared, it's how much the owners feel the players deserve, and I would agree that 60% is probably too much.
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I think a soft cap could work in the place of the current one(although I hope it doesn't get to the spot the NBA is at now), with luxury taxes as penalties for going over.

Ideally of course, I'd want it to stay the same. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And since the NFL is pretty clearly the best professional league, it sure ain't broke.
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If the owners want the players to get less, they can risk their health for THEIR wallets.
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The Falcons would become a better team, because Blank is willing to drop as much money as it takes to build a winner...but football without a cap I would hate...
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If the owners want the players to get less, they can risk their health for THEIR wallets.
So that would probably end up in a strike...
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