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Old 02-08-2008, 11:29 AM    (permalink
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I'm not involved at all, but the standard difference between #5 and #12 is 500 points.

Denver also picks at #42, which rates at 480 points.

So the value works out almost perfectly... something to think about, and would appear to make sense for both parties.
actually, the only picks we have right now are the #21 and three fifth rounders. so it'll be tough dealing with us.
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Interesting. Hadn't noticed that the Lions have taken the #4 pick from KC. Perhaps J.Long could be there at #5 after all...

That's what I am hoping for.

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Its coming up soon, so what does our big board look like now? Have we traded out of #5?
Not yet, but hopefully soon.
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I'm not involved at all, but the standard difference between #5 and #12 is 500 points.

Denver also picks at #42, which rates at 480 points.

So the value works out almost perfectly... something to think about, and would appear to make sense for both parties.
not a abd trade. I would try and get a pick next year as well.
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After a week of discussions my trading partner backed out at the last moment.. so I took the best trench player still available: Ryan Clady.
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Solid pick. One of the best pass blocking OTs in the draft who is solid in the run game. May not be Joe Thomas, but will get the job done for Derek Anderson.

You think you are going to try to trade back into the 2nd round? Any prospects in the 2nd you are eying?
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Solid pick. One of the best pass blocking OTs in the draft who is solid in the run game. May not be Joe Thomas, but will get the job done for Matt Ryan.

You think you are going to try to trade back into the 2nd round? Any prospects in the 2nd you are eying?
Matt Ryan? and he is the best pass blocking OT i nthe draft.
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After a week of discussions my trading partner backed out at the last moment.. so I took the best trench player still available: Ryan Clady.
good pick. the offense as it is after this pick.
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Matt Ryan? and he is the best pass blocking OT i nthe draft.

good pick. the offense as it is after this pick.
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Eh. All this Matt Ryan talk. I changed it.
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Solid pick. One of the best pass blocking OTs in the draft who is solid in the run game. May not be Joe Thomas, but will get the job done for Derek Anderson.

You think you are going to try to trade back into the 2nd round? Any prospects in the 2nd you are eying?
I think I might just stick with the two 3rd round picks and take a power RB and a NT.
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Matt Ryan? and he is the best pass blocking OT i nthe draft.

good pick. the offense as it is after this pick.
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I think Clabo would start over Forney.
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Matt Ryan? and he is the best pass blocking OT i nthe draft.
Chris Williams is a better pass protector than Ryan Clady.
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Clabo is a baller, he's overlooked, but that guy can seriously play in the trenches. He'll start over Forney if we even keep Forney on the roster. Clady helps us out a lot, so that's a fine pick.
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lol no. (10 chars)
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Chris Williams is a better pass protector than Ryan Clady.
I believe that Williams has the potential to be a better OT and that is why I feel he has more value, but if you want someone to be a stud LT next year, then I would go with Clady. But throughout a career, I would say Williams.
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Lol, yes. He might not go as high (low teens for Clady to late twenties for Williams), but he pass blocks just as well if not better. Clady has the advantage of long arms compared to Williams', but Williams hardly ever gets beat in pass protection. He also has a bigger base, although that is not saying much with the scrawny-legged Clady.

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It doesnt matter when they go. Clady is easily the better pass blocker, though Williams is may be more well balanced.
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You can listen to the draft niks. I will go off of what I saw. I saw Chris Williams dominate SEC pass rushers. I saw Ryan Clady get beat by Eastern Carolina and Hawaii players.
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I fully agree. I was just going by what we do. I think we wind up cutting Forney in favor of Clabo.
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Now we have:

1. Ryan Clady | OT
3. Marcus Harrison | DT
3. Matt Forte | RB
4. Vince Hall | MLB
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That looks pretty decent to me. A good haul, fixed our three biggest offensive needs, and our two biggest defensive needs. Now have the luxury of just taking pure BPA in the later rounds...

The biggest gamble there is on Clady. He's got massive potential, but I rather suspect he might struggle for power at first, a bit like D'Brick.
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Vince Hall. Perfect pick. I love him.
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So far I am very pleased. The only thing is I don't know who to take with my final pick. To be frank I usually only go about four rounds deep when it comes to prospects.
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It's OK. Not a fan of Anderson. He is OK but Chad Henne (2nd round) or Derek Anderson v. 2.0 Joe Flacco (2nd or 3rd round) could have been had for much less.

Like I said I am not a fan of Clady, I just think he is too small in the base for him to be very good in the NFL.

Harrison is a gamble, I heard he has character issues and he really is not too talented. Probably could have been had later.

I like Forte a lot, he is a nice fit.

Ditto with Vince Hall.
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Same. Just look at Scotts rankings for a position of need and take the highest rated player that is there.
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I think I will probably grab a situational pass rusher to spell John Abraham.
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