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Old 02-07-2008, 06:14 PM    (permalink
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Default Super Bowl Conspiracy Theory... Patriots Get Cheated?

I came upon this video stating that the referees granted the Giants extra time on the clock during the last drive of the Super Bowl... It is very interesting.

Video: http://i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=27384
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I remember when they ****ed up with the clock, but it was just a human error. It happens more often than people realize in the game. And honestly, how the hell did this little thing favor the Pats in anyway?
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the patriots were robbed 50 seconds. How can you not say this was a disadvantage to the pats...
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**** happens. How many penalties were not called in that game that should have been? **** happens.
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true but penalties can be judgement calls...They just screwed up the time... Im not tying to b**** i just think it is interesting.
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wow, everyone is so against the pats.....

im no pats fan by any stretch of the imagination but i have a feeling that if tom coughlin ran out on the field with a piece of rebar and took out tom brady's knee, it would still somehow be "human error" and perfectly legit

now i dont think theres any big conspiracy or anyting but damn people, dont be so quick to pounce on the pats
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wow, everyone is so against the pats.....

im no pats fan by any stretch of the imagination but i have a feeling that if tom coughlin ran out on the field with a piece of rebar and took out tom brady's knee, it would still somehow be "human error" and perfectly legit

now i dont think theres any big conspiracy or anyting but damn people, dont be so quick to pounce on the pats
I agree, the guy did a good job (well, it was ok, it was a bad setup) showing how much time should have really been taken off of the clock but it still doesn't change much for me. And while there is human error for doing scoreboards, it isn't anything this large. Oh well, its over with.
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I agree, the guy did a good job (well, it was ok, it was a bad setup) showing how much time should have really been taken off of the clock but it still doesn't change much for me. And while there is human error for doing scoreboards, it isn't anything this large. Oh well, its over with.
totally. but i still wouldnt mind seeing maybe someone do a more proffessional version of that and put what the clock should read somewhere on the screen
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Oh, and this is just my opinion but I think the title is a little misleading. Maybe it shouldn't include something like Patriots Cheated with the year we've just had. Maybe something about a Time Error.
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The NFL already said there was a bit of a clock screw up during the game, I'm pretty sure...
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Mike Carey did a great job reffing the game.
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Haha, I love his little comment about Coughlin tapping the referee to let him know he wants a timeout and how that should have been a 15 yard penalty. With recent developments I don't think the Patriots have any room to be griping about being ripped off. How about talking to the 31 other teams the Patriots have played since Belichick got there. You know what is also against the rules, taping other teams.

The part where Jacobs gets the first on 4th and 1 the Giants would not have moved at the same pace if the clock were running.

When Manning gets tackled from behind by Thomas he was clearly down when his knees hit. The Patriots continue to try to get the "fumble" and burns time, the play would have been reviewed from upstairs with more time put on the clock if the ref had not stopped it on the field. The clock is stopped because the Patriots won't get off him.

Do you have any idea how many seconds are screwed up over the course of a football game? Watch for it throughout the game and you will see many errors.

How about looking at the Rams and Patriots Superbowl. In addition to the recent taping news, the Patriots used their policy of raping receivers and inexplicably not getting penalized for it. Colts fans know all about this policy, in fact illegal contact was made a point of emphasis because the refs refused to call it against the Patriots in the playoffs. You know what, as a Rams fan I also have a complaint about the clock in the Superbowl. How about the 2 seconds they just let run off the clock after Vinatieri made the FG. For all we know the Rams would have returned the kickoff for a TD in the most amazing finish in Superbowl history. Sure its far fetched, but they were still ripped off of 2 seconds. Here is a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEvCrRi1-Fc
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Haha, I love his little comment about Coughlin tapping the referee to let him know he wants a timeout and how that should have been a 15 yard penalty. With recent developments I don't think the Patriots have any room to be griping about being ripped off. How about talking to the 31 other teams the Patriots have played since Belichick got there. You know what is also against the rules, taping other teams.

The part where Jacobs gets the first on 4th and 1 the Giants would not have moved at the same pace if the clock were running.

When Manning gets tackled from behind by Thomas he was clearly down when his knees hit. The Patriots continue to try to get the "fumble" and burns time, the play would have been reviewed from upstairs with more time put on the clock if the ref had not stopped it on the field. The clock is stopped because the Patriots won't get off him.

Do you have any idea how many seconds are screwed up over the course of a football game? Watch for it throughout the game and you will see many errors.

How about looking at the Rams and Patriots Superbowl. In addition to the recent taping news, the Patriots used their policy of raping receivers and inexplicably not getting penalized for it. Colts fans know all about this policy, in fact illegal contact was made a point of emphasis because the refs refused to call it against the Patriots in the playoffs. You know what, as a Rams fan I also have a complaint about the clock in the Superbowl. How about the 2 seconds they just let run off the clock after Vinatieri made the FG. For all we know the Rams would have returned the kickoff for a TD in the most amazing finish in Superbowl history. Sure its far fetched, but they were still ripped off of 2 seconds. Here is a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEvCrRi1-Fc
I remember that! Lol, I was cheering for the Rams that time, and I was soooo pissed when they ran that off the clock.
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how did they lose 50 seconds? did Eli Manning forget how to spike a ball? they lost 10 seconds at most. leaving 25 on the clock instead of 35.
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how did they lose 50 seconds? did Eli Manning forget how to spike a ball? they lost 10 seconds at most. leaving 25 on the clock instead of 35.
But you're forgetting that the Giants wouldn't have spiked the ball and just let time run out on them. Only the all-mighty Patriots have figured out the art of the spiked ball.
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this is dumb...patriots lost get over it...some people still havent accepted it.

errors like this will always occur so long as there is so measure of humans involved in the game. people make mistakes, simple as that its just something that is in every game, not just the super bowl.
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The pats cant complain about any calls, or screw ups that DIDNT go in their faavor, they got every break known to mankind in the Ravens game, and every single lucky bounce/call possible, at some point they had to have it go against them...The guy is right the time was off, but regardless, Pats have been on both sides of that fence so they cant complain now that the shoe is on the other foot
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Did you know he was the first black referee in Super Bowl history? Yep. The first black referee in Super Bowl HISTORY.
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i don't think it's that bad.
the pats loved to sit on every downed ballcarrier during a pile up for a good 10 seconds longer than was absolutely necessary to try to toy with mannings/coughlins desire to keep the playclock near five in the first half. hence, not allowing everyone to get back to the huddle in a reasonable fashion.

i mean, there were actual clock issues. if you go through the SB thread. i remember yelling out during the last drives, something like, wtf. the clock lost 10 seconds in double time. and then it got reset after a minute real time went by (because, said pileup).
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Old 02-08-2008, 03:12 AM    (permalink
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Someone started a petition to get the league to investigate this. These people did not realize the inherent flaw in their theory, however, which is why it is irrelevant, that being (as quote from the petition):

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1. The stadium game clock is official. In case it stops or is operating incorrectly, the Line Judge takes over the official timing on the field.
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The authority and measures provided for in this section (UNFAIR ACTS) do not constitute a protest machinery for NFL clubs to dispute the result of a game. The Commissioner will conduct an investigation under this section only to review an act or occurrence that he deems so unfair that the result of the game in question may be inequitable to one of the participating teams. The Commissioner will not apply his authority under this section when a club registers a complaint concerning judgmental errors or routine errors of omission by game officials. Games involving such complaints will continue to stand as completed.
If the stadium clock wasn't working, and the Line Judge didn't run time off, it's an error on his part, and hence falls into the unchallengable category. Sorry Pats fans, you lose yet again.
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Well thats what the Pats get for cheating for the past 4 or 5 years.
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