Green Bay Packers Discussion - Page 155

neko4 · 03-15-2007, 10:51 AM

Leroy Butler and Robert Brooks to be team HOF's if anyone didnt hear it yet.

M1Koter · 03-15-2007, 11:22 AM

yeah thats good new, Leroy was a great player and a great guy, glad to hear it. BTW did any one else read his book? I read it in 7th grade and I thought it was pretty good stuff

princefielder28 · 03-15-2007, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neko4

Leroy Butler and Robert Brooks to be team HOF's if anyone didnt hear it yet.

They both deserve the honor

neko4 · 03-15-2007, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M1Koter

yeah thats good new, Leroy was a great player and a great guy, glad to hear it. BTW did any one else read his book? I read it in 7th grade and I thought it was pretty good stuff

I ve wanted to, so we also signed exclusive rights to Herron, whatever that means

GB12 · 03-15-2007, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neko4

I ve wanted to, so we also signed exclusive rights to Herron, whatever that means

It means that we reisigned him to a one year deal and the minimum.

Whistler6 · 03-16-2007, 11:48 AM

So Vic Carucci has Green Bay taking Kenny Irons with the 16th overall pick on NFl.com. hmm yeah I was thinking more of him in the 2nd round, but he is a good talent. I'm not sure about that mock tho. What do you all think?

ny10804 · 03-16-2007, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whistler6

So Vic Carucci has Green Bay taking Kenny Irons with the 16th overall pick on NFl.com. hmm yeah I was thinking more of him in the 2nd round, but he is a good talent. I'm not sure about that mock tho. What do you all think?

My take: good player to take by trading down in the first or second, bad player to take with the 16th pick. Great player to take with our second rounder.

princefielder28 · 03-16-2007, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ny10804

My take: good player to take by trading down in the first or second, bad player to take with the 16th pick. Great player to take with our second rounder.

Yes, 2ND ROUNDER!!!

03-16-2007, 05:43 PM

I still feel like Tony Hunt is our guy in the 2nd/3rd round.

This kid does it all...runs, catches, blocks. He has a very good first cut, is strong between the tackles, has good vision and, though he isn't a burner has a very good burst. He is a savvy route runner with good hands and blocks well. Very good ZBS prospect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFt_N9MLJu8

ds8582 · 03-16-2007, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whistler6

So Vic Carucci has Green Bay taking Kenny Irons with the 16th overall pick on NFl.com. hmm yeah I was thinking more of him in the 2nd round, but he is a good talent. I'm not sure about that mock tho. What do you all think?

I saw that too. 2nd round would be awesome.

M1Koter · 03-16-2007, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackAttack

I still feel like Tony Hunt is our guy in the 2nd/3rd round.

This kid does it all...runs, catches, blocks. He has a very good first cut, is strong between the tackles, has good vision and, though he isn't a burner has a very good burst. He is a savvy route runner with good hands and blocks well. Very good ZBS prospect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFt_N9MLJu8

yeah I wasn't to sure about him and then from what I heard he had a pretty good senior bowl, I'd like to have him in the second if for one reason or another we didn't get lynch

cuzifelt1ikeit · 03-16-2007, 08:37 PM

id much rather get ramonce taylor in the 4th or later

neko4 · 03-16-2007, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuzifelt1ikeit

id much rather get ramonce taylor in the 4th or later

Why gamble on him? Ramonce could be more "baggage" than needed if we get Moss. Hunt can do it all and is a powerful runner, he really impressed me in the senior bowl

cuzifelt1ikeit · 03-16-2007, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neko4

Why gamble on him? Ramonce could be more "baggage" than needed if we get Moss. Hunt can do it all and is a powerful runner, he really impressed me in the senior bowl

yeah i think his "baggage" is no more then a carry on. its a risk reward type of thing and i have a feeling he will be drafted in the third

princefielder28 · 03-16-2007, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuzifelt1ikeit

yeah i think his "baggage" is no more then a carry on. its a risk reward type of thing and i have a feeling he will be drafted in the third

In the 3rd??? That's certainly a stretch!

princefielder28 · 03-16-2007, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackAttack

I still feel like Tony Hunt is our guy in the 2nd/3rd round.

This kid does it all...runs, catches, blocks. He has a very good first cut, is strong between the tackles, has good vision and, though he isn't a burner has a very good burst. He is a savvy route runner with good hands and blocks well. Very good ZBS prospect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFt_N9MLJu8

I wouldn't mind Tony; he had a successful career and a solid week at the Senior bowl

ny10804 · 03-16-2007, 10:20 PM

Lorenzo Booker is the guy I'm interested in the late 2nd, third round.

He fits the system very well at 5'10 3/8, 191. 4.46 40. 26 reps of 225.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvPumoZFpl4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JlsnDcoNKtI

Empire · 03-16-2007, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ny10804

Lorenzo Booker is the guy I'm interested in the late 2nd, third round.

He fits the system very well at 5'10 3/8, 191. 4.46 40. 26 reps of 225.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvPumoZFpl4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JlsnDcoNKtI

Not really, the ZBS requires a RB to make one cut and run downhill. Booker is more in the mold of a poor man's Reggie Bush and dances too much. His talents would be wasted in our system.

ny10804 · 03-16-2007, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Empire

Not really, the ZBS requires a RB to make one cut and run downhill. Booker is more in the mold of a poor man's Reggie Bush and dances too much. His talents would be wasted in our system.

I always thought the ZBS required small, quick RBs, much like Warrick Dunn and Jerius Norwood in ATL. I think thats one of the reasons Morency produced at a higher rate than Ahman this past year.

I still think he'd be good in our system.

Empire · 03-16-2007, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ny10804

I always thought the ZBS required small, quick RBs, much like Warrick Dunn and Jerius Norwood in ATL. I think thats one of the reasons Morency produced at a higher rate than Ahman this past year.

I still think he'd be good in our system.

It is the lineman who have to be smaller and more athletic. All of them have to be able to move because the offensive line will often slant or move in a given direction on any given play. RB like Warrick Dunn are successful because they are one cut RB who are able to cut back very quickly. It is true that the running back has to be able to cut back, but he doesn't need to be small. As long as he has the athleticism to hit a hole when it appears, the RB will be successful. That is why guys like TJ Duckett couldn't do anything in Atlanta. He didn't have the agility to cut back like Dunn. Power running backs rarely work in the ZBS.

ny10804 · 03-16-2007, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Empire

It is the lineman who have to be smaller and more athletic. All of them have to be able to move because the offensive line will often slant or move in a given direction on any given play. RB like Warrick Dunn are successful because they are one cut RB who are able to cut back very quickly. It is true that the running back has to be able to cut back, but he doesn't need to be small. As long as he has the athleticism to hit a hole when it appears, the RB will be successful. That is why guys like TJ Duckett couldn't do anything in Atlanta. He didn't have the agility to cut back like Dunn. Power running backs rarely work in the ZBS.

In terms of shear physical size, a smaller back would be advantageous in squeezing through small holes (talk about a double entendre). Booker is small, and his stengths are "agile and changes directions well...Patient runner with decent vision" and weaknesses "not very physical and won't break many tackles." (from Scott)

I don't know, seems like a good match to me...

Empire · 03-16-2007, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ny10804

In terms of shear physical size, a smaller back would be advantageous in squeezing through small holes (talk about a double entendre). Booker is small, and his stengths are "agile and changes directions well...Patient runner with decent vision" and weaknesses "not very physical and won't break many tackles." (from Scott)

I don't know, seems like a good match to me...

I haven't seen him play too much so I might be mistaken on his style of play, but just based on his highlight reels and his scouting reports he wouldn't be a good fit. He's like Reggie Bush and dances around a lot. The ZBS requires the RB to make just one cut and then run downhill. Booker takes a lot more than one cut during his runs. It's true that he is agile, but he wouldn't be a good fit unless he severely altered his style of play.

I think this guy would make a much better fit for our system if miss Peterson and Lynch

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jFt_N9MLJu8

ny10804 · 03-16-2007, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Empire

I haven't seen him play too much so I might be mistaken on his style of play, but just based on his highlight reels and his scouting reports he wouldn't be a good fit. He's like Reggie Bush and dances around a lot. The ZBS requires the RB to make just one cut and then run downhill. Booker takes a lot more than one cut during his runs. It's true that he is agile, but he wouldn't be a good fit unless he severely altered his style of play.

I think this guy would make a much better fit for our system if miss Peterson and Lynch

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jFt_N9MLJu8

I haven't seen much of Booker, but that one highlight versus ND is just that: one highlight. I'm sure he's not always like that. And reading his scouting report, he isn't.

And I agree Hunt would be a good fit also.

ny10804 · 03-17-2007, 12:05 AM

* Just realized something, FSU ran the ZBS last year. No doubt in my mind he would be a great fit for us.

Empire · 03-17-2007, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ny10804

* Just realized something, FSU ran the ZBS last year. No doubt in my mind he would be a great fit for us.

You could very well be right. I hope someone who has watched Booker a lot could clear this up. It just seems like he dances too much for the ZBS from what I've seen, but I could be wrong.