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Old 03-04-2008, 01:25 AM    (permalink
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would we want him at LB??? i know he wants to be the highest paid special teamer in the league.
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ive been thinking. i have heard some people say that this is not a top heavy draft class, but it is rather deep. I have been looking over, players and positions. i am starting to think that we are going to trade back from our pick in round one for either more picks or a high pick next year. TT likes to stock pile picks and i think this is the draft to do it. we really do not have alot of needs or glaring holes like other teams. and we do have the extra 2nd rounder. i think TT is going to shop this first rounder out and see what he can get. just throwing it out there.
Earlier I was pretty convinced that they might trade UP but now Im starting to lean this way. This is a pretty deep draft class and TT knows how to find those late round sleepers so it wouldnt surprise me. Maybe a team looking to trade into the bottom of the first to pick up a QB like Flacco, Henne, or Brohm might be the possible suitors.
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thats what i was thinking. We have something that we really dont need to badly. get some extra picks. stockpile talent. or get another first for it if we can. and then have two first rounders next year, to trade up with or stock pile talent with next year.
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I think even if the packers got a another second rounder and lets say a fourth that would be okay. Three second round picks would be almost the same as what the packers have now, with a late first and two seconds. There is so much value in the second round. There will still be decent corners, (cason, possibly flowers, patrick lee) All the Lbs for the most part will be there. All of the TE's will be there unless Fred Davis has a ridiculous pro day and vaults himself into the first round. A long story short: there will be a lot of good players there. So I think it is a strong possibility, and if Brett doesnt come back, that the packers will be looking to trade down.
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For the team TT has assembled, I am hoping he does not trade down. I would prefer he stand pat, or maybe move up in the third round, considering we should be having a compensatory pick (I am guessing a fifth rounder) and he could use the regular fifth to move up. With players that are very solid at "need" positions, I don't think TT has to move up in R1 or R2. He could get a CB, LB and TE in R1/R2, then see what SS is available R3. He might need to move up higher to get a specific player, like Josh Barret, otherwise he can pick BPA at areas that need depth. This team went to the NFC Championship and does not need another 10 rookies to build the depth. They need 5 to 8 new players to give competition at weak spots and build depth at the others. Why trade down when you are really only looking for a player to challnge at DE for a backup spot, an OLB to challenge B-Pop, a healthy MLB to back up Barnett if Bishop and Hodge are not going to be ready, two CBs that will be there for depth, and a S to challenge to start or be a solid backup. That's 6 on defense. On offense there's a need for backup TE, maybe even two, though if they keep two FBs, probably not, maybe a backup RB to challenge Morency, though the Packers gave him a tender, and then someone to challenge at OG, which I don't know how many rookies we would be able to get that would do that for this upcoming season. That's 3 on offense, 9 total. If the Packers bring in a DE and an OLB FA at a reasonable price, particularly if they are good special teamers, then that would be only 7 players to push for those roster spots. Why trade down to fill those?

If Brett didn't come back, I would say there would be more of an argument to possibly trade up and get a quality backup QB, as Rodgers has not proven to be the ironman Brett is.
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There is little need to trade down for extra picks as we have no where near as many needs as we did in the past few seasons. We are in a very nice position at the moment.

However, I could see us trading out of the first for a package that involved an 09 1st, provided all the premier CB prospects had gone. I agree with Goatboy, I could see someone wanted our pick to snare Brohm or Flacco.
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Brett Favre is retiring.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3276034

Thanks for the memories Brett, its gonna be strange not seeing him on the field every Sunday. He's been our QB since I started following football and that probably goes for a few other people on these boards too.

Puts a totally new outlook on next year.
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Thanks for the memories Brett, its gonna be strange not seeing him on the field every Sunday. He's been our QB since I started following football and that probably goes for a few other people on these boards too.

Puts a totally new outlook on next year.
Pretty much the worst news for any Packers fan to hear. It's going to be weird not watching him anymore.

All I can do is support Rodgers as he takes over the offense and remember the good times that Brett gave us.
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i dont know about you guys but i felt like this was going to happen, ill miss him
im worried about the running game as it going to be very important Colledge "STEP UP"
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If this is in fact true, it's one of the saddest days of my life. One more year Brett!
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we should sign a qb maybe

Daunte Culpepper
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all big arm QB's lol
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Today is a sad day in Packer history. Brett has been playing quarterback for the Packers since I can remember, it's very hard to see him walk away from the game especialy after the season that he and the team had last year.

Now it's time for Aaron Rodgers to show that he is the guy and not just a backup. I think that he will do very well
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I like Rodgers. I hope we bring in Leftwich as a backup.
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Ughh, its a sad sad day, he is really the only QB in GB that i have ever really watched. I mean i saw Don a little bit but i was like 5. Its going to be weird like someone said earlier.

Now if DRC or Talib are not there in the 1st, why not trade down? 3 2nd picks plus maybe an extra 4th. 6 picks between the 2-4 rounds could build great depth with the deep draft class:

2nd round
CB Flowers, Cason, Lee
OLB Henderson, Gooden maybe Crable (great SLB canidate he's a beast)
TE Keller, Bennett,
O-line Rachal, Cousins( could easily move to guard, like him alot)

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take one of those 4 positions you didn't cover in the 2nd

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if Reggie Smith is there i hope he dont trade down
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as a backup QB, i know he sucks but mccarthy has made him great at one time, can probably still make a decent backup out of him...

aaron brooks??
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That is very disappointing. I am wondering if they knew this last week when they put the web-site up.

A friend of mine is hoping he will announce his retirement for AFTER the 2008 season and this will be his last hurrah.

I donít know. The way the web-site looks set up is that he will not be back next year.

The Rodgers era is going to begin, and I wonder if Brett waited until there was a good team for the new QB to play with so that his career would not be trashed like so many of the QBs that follow legends. Look at the guys who came after Aikman, Marino and Young. They had terrible times as the organizations did not have a lot of playmakers around them. When Joe Montana left SF, there was still a very good team for Young to play with and he took them to the SB. Maybe Brett decided that Rodgers will have a good receiving corp, a good defense, a solid line and a decent RB, so now it is up to Rodgers to make his name and will not be playing in Brettís shadow with a team like Brett had two years ago that was terrible.
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This is a shock to me, but after hearing the reasons he gave, I really do understand. The grind of a NFL is something we will never know about and to do it every year for 17 season has got to be draining. Brett Favre will lose records to Peyton and Brady, but he had the whole package, a personality that matched his game. We will never see a player like Brett again. I'm only 22, I'm just glad to have seen play for this long.

As for the teams future, I really believe that Aaron can lead this team. He has had a chance to sit and watch and more importantly, learn the playbook. We as fans need to understand that Brett will not come back, we need to support Aaron, TT, and MM in helping this team move on.

ESPN is pushing the Randy Moss thing, but really, i don't think that's the factor.
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I'm obviously sad to see him retire, but I'm not surprised or dissapointed really. I'm excited to see Rodgers finally get his chance.
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That is very disappointing. I am wondering if they knew this last week when they put the web-site up.

A friend of mine is hoping he will announce his retirement for AFTER the 2008 season and this will be his last hurrah.

I donít know. The way the web-site looks set up is that he will not be back next year.

The Rodgers era is going to begin, and I wonder if Brett waited until there was a good team for the new QB to play with so that his career would not be trashed like so many of the QBs that follow legends. Look at the guys who came after Aikman, Marino and Young. They had terrible times as the organizations did not have a lot of playmakers around them. When Joe Montana left SF, there was still a very good team for Young to play with and he took them to the SB. Maybe Brett decided that Rodgers will have a good receiving corp, a good defense, a solid line and a decent RB, so now it is up to Rodgers to make his name and will not be playing in Brettís shadow with a team like Brett had two years ago that was terrible.
Come on now....do you really think Favre gave a rat's ass about Aaron Rodgers? I think he either:

a) got tired of training
b) didn't think that the FO really wanted him back (that's what his agent said, and I've been thinking that since 2005)
c) didn't think they were realistic enough Superbowl contendors to give it another year.

Anyway, I posted it in the other thread, but I think it's so fantastic I'm putting it here too.



I don't know if he'd be willing to come in just to be an insurance policy to Rodgers, and it's really not fair to ask Rodgers to compete for the job against another veteran, but it makes a lot of sense and the Pack could still win with the ol' Snake.
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sad pack fans...favre retired, just heard about it. I may be a big vikings fan, but i had a ton of respect for the guy. hope aaron rodgers can fill those shoes
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No you don't.
Haha....this is a joyous day in for other teams in the North Dvision because it means that the Packers have fallen back to the pack a little bit and the other teams, mainly Minnesota, have a chance at the division.
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no offence but let be real no one can fill Favre shoes
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