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Old 04-23-2008, 12:48 PM    (permalink
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Yeah, we seem to have a few naive, Packer fans here who are in denial as to how good Jared Allen is, and how good Kevin and Pat Williams are at DT.

That's the best D-Line in football now, no matter who the other DE is.

Luckily for us, they still have Tarvarris Jackson at QB.
Yeah, I just came into realization of how good that defensive line will be if everything works out. Holy ****.
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Yeah we really are going to have to watch out for the Vikes this year unfortunately. IMO their weak spot last year was getting pressure on the QB to help out their secondary and this move significantly improves that. They still have very little at WR at this point, but I think they have to be looked at as a contender this year.
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I know Allen is a player, I mean he was suspended for the first 2 games of the season, and still had 15+ sacks. Yes, on paper, the vikings have a great d-line, but their secondary is still pretty shaky and the linebackers are average. As far as the offense goes, AP of course it great but Tavaris jackson is awful and was really bad last year. He would have to make huge leaps and bounds to worry me this season. At WR Berrian is way overrated, I watched him have a awful season last year, and not to mention all he does is run vertical routes.

Overall, the vikings got better, no question about it, but many questions are still present, mainly at QB and WR.
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I know Allen is a player, I mean he was suspended for the first 2 games of the season, and still had 15+ sacks. Yes, on paper, the vikings have a great d-line, but their secondary is still pretty shaky and the linebackers are average. As far as the offense goes, AP of course it great but Tavaris jackson is awful and was really bad last year. He would have to make huge leaps and bounds to worry me this season. At WR Berrian is way overrated, I watched him have a awful season last year, and not to mention all he does is run vertical routes.

Overall, the vikings got better, no question about it, but many questions are still present, mainly at QB and WR.
Part of the Vikings problems in the secondary came from a non-existent pass rush and Allen brings that. Madieu Williams, although he may not be a Pro Bowl caliber player, brings speed to the safety position which Sharper and Dwight Smith did not provide last year. I think you're also underrating their LBs. EJ Henderson has really emerged as a solid middle linebacker and continues to improve year in and year out. Chad Greenway was pretty much in his rookie season last year and he is going to improve as well. Ben Leber is not spectacular but he gets the job done and with an improved defensive line it'll help the LBs as well. The defense of Minnesota will be very tough to go against and like you mentioned there are questions remaining on the offensive side of the ball for them.
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He's being looked at as a backup for Aaron Rodgers. Culpepper might not be guaranteed the No. 2 job, as Green Bay seems likely to draft a signal caller.

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Part of the Vikings problems in the secondary came from a non-existent pass rush and Allen brings that. Madieu Williams, although he may not be a Pro Bowl caliber player, brings speed to the safety position which Sharper and Dwight Smith did not provide last year. I think you're also underrating their LBs. EJ Henderson has really emerged as a solid middle linebacker and continues to improve year in and year out. Chad Greenway was pretty much in his rookie season last year and he is going to improve as well. Ben Leber is not spectacular but he gets the job done and with an improved defensive line it'll help the LBs as well. The defense of Minnesota will be very tough to go against and like you mentioned there are questions remaining on the offensive side of the ball for them.
Well-said, correctly analyzed.
It sounds like a helluva tough game for Aaron Rodgers' first game ever!
Taking over for Favre.... first game, primetime TV, vs the rival Vikings..... who have a great defense with Sharper lurking back there waiting to pick off any pass he can.

This game will be like last year's opener against Philly, in which our offense was HORRIBLE minus Jennings, but our defense and special teams saved us.

Luckily Jackson isn't as good as McNabb was, but that was McNabb's first game back from the ACL so that was a break....
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http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/.../80423104/1058
I would like him as a back-up for one season, he is not a good full time starter in NFL anymore but he has shown that he can be a good QB for one or two games.
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No no no no no no no a thousand times over NO.

I will be furious if this happens, ******* furious.

Just imagine...
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No no no no no no no a thousand times over NO.

I will be furious if this happens, ******* furious.

Just imagine...
Agreed, I don't want Culpepper at all. I couldn't stand him as a Viking.
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Does anyone know why the Packers don't just resign Craig Nall??
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Does anyone know why the Packers don't just resign Craig Nall??
Because he's terrible...?
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I hated Culpepper from the get go and know he's a cancer. He's also overrated. But now people have him figured out......

By the way, I don't like Dallas getting the premium talented Pac Man. Thugs have thrived for them before, to our expense.
See 1993-1995.

Jones was scheduled for a base salary of $1.74 million in 2008 and had been under contract through 2009 before his suspension.

He was the first defensive player drafted in 2005, sixth overall out of West Virginia, and easily was Tennessee's best defender in 2005 and '06. His four career interceptions came in 2006 as he helped the Titans to an 8-8 record. He also led the NFL in punt-return average in 2006 with 12.9 yards per return and three touchdowns.
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Time to get over the Daunte hate fellas.

Time to get BOUT IT BOUT IT
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Anyone know which season and episode of south park episode has Favre in it? I think it's relatively old.
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Agreed, I don't want Culpepper at all. I couldn't stand him as a Viking.
Who the hell cares what happened when he was a member of another team? We all know that TT can scout college talent and sign FA's that will help this team, If Culpepper can still play, TT will bring him in. So if he gets signed I put more stock into that then if some other crap team signs him.

If TT feels he can play, he's gonna provide solid insurance if Aaron gets overwhelmed or gets hurt. I would feel better with Culpepper behind center rather than Nall. I don't think he get's signed if he does at all, until after the draft.
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some food for thought per Rotoworld:

Some believe" that Chad Pennington could still be traded on draft day if the Jets draft Matt Ryan, according to the NY Daily News.

Considering their offseason spending spree, the Jets appear to be looking to win now, so drafting Ryan is seemingly unlikely. But a team like the Packers could be interested in Pennington if he somehow becomes available.
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http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft...2=stateChanged

Rates each teams first round draft choices from 2000-2007. Interesting what they say about Barnett.

"He has been one of the most outstanding, consistent, productive defenders in the league over his tenure in the NFL. Given his great durability, he may even be a future Hall of Famer".
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Barnett a hall of famer??? well he needs to get to the Pro Bowl more often before we can talk about that. but otherwise i like what they said
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He could easily have been to two or three probowls already. He definitely should have gone this year and there have been past years where he'd be a good option. He just doesn't get all the hype that Lofa Tatupu gets eventhough he's had a higher level of play over a longer period of time.
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Brett Favre is the madden cover boy.

I hope this doesnt result in some kind of a curse for the team!
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He could easily have been to two or three probowls already. He definitely should have gone this year and there have been past years where he'd be a good option. He just doesn't get all the hype that Lofa Tatupu gets eventhough he's had a higher level of play over a longer period of time.
i completely agree, i think barnett is one of the most under-rated LB's in the NFL
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Barnett HOF?? Yeah right. I love the guy, and he's a very good player, but no way he'll ever be a HOF MIKE.


Also, where does it say Favre is the madded cover man?
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Also, where does it say Favre is the madded cover man?
Favre is on Letterman tonight. The news got out after he taped it.
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IDK then to be honest. But there are links:

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