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Old 04-28-2008, 06:39 PM    (permalink
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Yahoo draft grades

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Packers. Brian Brohm gives the Packers insurance at quarterback if Aaron Rodgers falters. Jordy Nelson is a deep-threat receiver who also returns kicks. They got great value for a team picking near the bottom.

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Bears. No, they didn’t get a quarterback, but they got three players—Chris Williams, Matt Forte and Earl Bennett—who can help an anemic offense, plus a defensive tackle (Marcus Harrison) who has first-round skills.

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Lions. Gosder Cherilus will improve the offensive line, but the need for secondary help was not addressed, and Dan Connor would have been a safer pick at linebacker than Jordon Dizon.

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Vikings. Trading their first-round pick for Jared Allen was the best part of their draft. But it also was shrewd to move up five spots for Tyrell Johnson, a safety most scouts love.


Interesting that even taking into consideration the Jared Allen deal, we edged out the Vikings by a hair.
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Nelson is many things but I wouldn't call him a deep threat at all. Also he has never returned a kickoff for Kansas State but he did return 5 punts for 264 yards and 2 TDs this past year. Strange analysis...
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I love what the packers did in the draft. Brohm was a stellar pick, Rodgers cant stay healthy as much i would love him to succeed its nice to have insurance there. Jordy Nelson is also a solid.. pick at best. I believe hes a good prospect but the need at the position was slim. Driver, Jennings, and Jones are all good but after that its shaky. Driver isnt getting much younger and we can work nelson in slot if Jennings or Jones were to get hurt. This draft was about depth now, and starters for the future so when the time comes to replace a current starter we wouldnt have to panic like we would now if we didnt draft Rodgers. Its nice to have a comfortable draft with no glaring needs
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Nelson is many things but I wouldn't call him a deep threat at all. Also he has never returned a kickoff for Kansas State but he did return 5 punts for 264 yards and 2 TDs this past year. Strange analysis...
Jordy has looked absolutely nasty with the few punt returns he's had, go watch him on youtube. I'd like to see Woodson taken off return duties ASAP and Jordy or Blackmon back there full time.
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I think Woodson is unofficially off Punt Return already. They took him off after the injury and the young guys have proven to be just as good so I think it's the last we'll see unless we need a security blanket if there's fumbling problems. I think Woodson has only lost 1 punt the last 2 years and it wasn't a muff, it was after taking a few steps, so he's safe back there and always gets yards. But I think he's done as Punt Returner for the most part.
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I think Woodson is unofficially off Punt Return already. They took him off after the injury and the young guys have proven to be just as good so I think it's the last we'll see unless we need a security blanket if there's fumbling problems. I think Woodson has only lost 1 punt the last 2 years and it wasn't a muff, it was after taking a few steps, so he's safe back there and always gets yards. But I think he's done as Punt Returner for the most part.
Its Will Blackmon's job to lose, Tramon Williams did just as good of a job as Blackmon did. And a dark horse like Taj Smith can take it.
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I'm glad Woodson is no longer the punt returner. He was a good one but he couldn't stay healthy back there. I would much rather have him help us at CB then punt returner.
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Here is the updated UDFA signings.

* Jake Allen, WR, Mississippi College: 6-4, 185, 4.56 seconds. Left as the Div. III school’s career leader in receptions, receiving yards and touchdown catches after catching 61 passes for 1,254 yards and 12 touchdowns.

* Brennan Carvalho, C, Portland State: 6-1, 294, 5.00. He was not invited to the combine, but did take part in the Hula Bowl. Three-time first-team all-Big Sky Conference selection and two-time all-American was not invited to the combine but played in the Hula Bowl. Has played both guard and center.

* Ken Debauche, P, Wisconsin: 6-1, 218, 4.95. Averaged 42.5 yards, which ranks second all-time at Wisconsin. Only 115 of 231 attempts were returned. Can also hold.

* Tierre Green, S, Nebraska: 6-1, 198, 4.32. Cousin of former Packers RB Ahman Green made 54 tackles last season and finished his career with 35 kickoff returns for a 20.6 average and a 114-yard rushing game as a redshirt freshman in 2004.

* Rod Harper, WR, Murray State: 6-1, 208, 4.45. Learned in January a problem with his JUCO transfer would cost him his senior season. Was MVP of powerhouse Southeast (Bradenton, Fla.) High School team when 25th overall pick Mike Jenkins (CB) of South Florida was a senior.

* Joey Haynos, TE, Maryland: 6-8, 259, 4.87. Mammoth former prep basketball standout was second on Terps with 27 catches for 287 yards. Invited to combine and Hula Bowl.

* J.J. Jansen, LS, Notre Dame: 6-3, 254, 4.79. Took over at long snapper for the Irish midway through the 2005 season and has never had a botched snap on any of his 300-odd attempts between punts and field goals.

* Danny Lansanah, LB, UConn: 6-0, 243, 4.72. Was an all-Big East choice after totaling 121 tackles (14 for losses) in 13 games with two sacks and four interceptions.

* Kregg Lumpkin, RB, Georgia: 5-11 1/2, 242, 4.64. After rushing for 798 yards and six touchdowns on 162 carries as a junior, was stuck in a rotation and only had 44 yards on 12 carries in 2007.

* Durrell Mapp, LB, North Carolina: 6-1, 277, 4.71 in 40. Second-team All-ACC player that led the Tar Heels in tackles each of the past two seasons (132 in ’07).

* Marcus Riley, LB, Fresno State: 6-0, 224, 4.66. WAC defensive player of the year with 132 total tackles (64 solo), including 15 tackles for a loss. Cousin of former Pro Bowl receiver Henry Ellard (Rams, Redskins). Highlight-reel hit on Hawaii QB Colt Brennan is a YouTube sensation.

* Mike Peterson, TE/FB, Northwest Missouri St.: 6-2, 247, 4.59. Walked on at the Div. II school after five years away from the game. Will be 26 in November.

* Taj Smith, WR, Syracuse: 6- 3/8ths, 187, 4.58. Turned pro after just one year at Syracuse, where he had 44 catches, 822 receiving yards and five touchdowns. Will turn 25 in September.

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That Marcus Riley hit was savage.

The rest of the UDFA guys don't impress me, but why would they when this team is so deep? Carvalho looks like a gamer and JJ Jansen should compete with Gafford for a roster spot. These other guys just feel like practice squad fodder.
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The Vikings signed EJ Henderson, Derius Reynaud, and Marcus Griffin yesterday, and each of them were guys who a year ago were projected as possible round 2 or 3 players. I don't know what they did to fall out of the draft completely.

Vikings have some positions open I guess....... these guys should all make the team, except Griffin is going to a position where they already drafted a great safety in the draft.

Our UFA signings were crap. Except Haynos, none of these guys will ever make a play for us. No Gates or Priests or Warners or Romo's in that group.
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like a couple of the UDFA signings but other than those two or three guys, i dont think the others will do much for us at all.
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I like Tierre Green or maybe Marcus Riley to see some time at safety if they play with the same intensity Bigby does but better coverage skills.
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So is there a rookie camp this weekend, or an OTA upcoming next month? Also, not being in WI is there a good website to get daily reports when TC is going on or reviews of the OTA's. I know about Packersnews.com, packers.com and JSonline.com but are there others?
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Tierre Green is going to be very intresting his size and speed 4.32 proday, 4.27 in new jersey

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4th round pick DE Jeremy Thompson is the brother of T Orrin Thompson.
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He's going to be eating his words when Cliiffy shuts him down again...c

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I didnt like Jared Allen already and I dont like him even more now. Does he realize he had a half of a sack last time we matched up?
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I didnt like Jared Allen already and I dont like him even more now. Does he realize he had a half of a sack last time we matched up?
One thing I like about TT and MM is that they bring in guys that can play but not talk. Let your play speak for yourself, I just think Allen is a d-bag, I really hate trash-talking but I kinda wish (Although it would never happen) that Aaron would be like "I'm looking forward to seeing Jared and I'll be waiting with a beer and his car keys"

Gosh, stuff like this just pisses me off. Sure Jared Allen is a talented player but this whole Trash-talking thing is bull****.
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We need to make sure the GOOD fans at Lambeau SPRAY, POUR, GUSH him with beer every time he gets close enough to taste it!!!!

When he walks thru that tunnel, I want him DRENCHED in Miller Lite! Send him into rehab in Minnesota!


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haha I like where you heads at AtariBigby. Hes about one DUI away from Chris Henry status.
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There was a rumor out there that if he stays clean that his record may be wiped clean in September and he would start over penalty wise if caught again
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ok so i guess that means we have to get to work, we only have till September to get him to **** up
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Originally Posted by princefielder28 View Post
There was a rumor out there that if he stays clean that his record may be wiped clean in September and he would start over penalty wise if caught again
Yeah I think Peter King wrote about it, apparently his record is due to get wiped but its up to the commisioner and if he gets done again his punishment will still be worse than if he was a first time offender.
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