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Old 05-14-2008, 04:05 AM    (permalink
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I came across an interesting stat... Bernard Berrian's contract is larger than the Packers five WR's.
Tells you how stupid the GM that signed him is. Rather than have a competent scouting staff, they go give a mediocre WR crazy money. Dragging stiff after stiff in from the cold to make Tavaris Jackson look like more than the absolutely terrible pick that he is. I found it laughable that people were so high on JDB and implying that he'll be the starter this upcoming year that will lead the Vikes to playoffs.

We'll see how all our receivers hold up with not having Favre throwing to them, but I am pretty excited about carrying the six guys I hope we carry.
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For the sake of not making a new thread, can a few Packers fans give me some insight on Koren Robinson? I'm wondering if he is a slot WR, or #3 at best, or if he has potenial to be a #2 guy on the outside, how are his hands, things like that...I watched him earlier in his career but I didn't get to see much of him at all last year after he was brought in, I'm not sure if he would be a good fit in Dallas or not, we really don't need another slot so if thats all Koren is Horn would probably be a better quick fix.
His hands are very good, his instincts are even better. Sadly, his knee is bone-on-bone arthritic and will require treatment all year long if he plays football. He isn't able to fully get into game shape due to the knee. He was an amazing return man when he was healthy and he had grown into a superior WR, and if he didn't have the knee problem, he'd still be a Packer.

He's a high character guy, with his fatal flaw being he's a recovering alcoholic. He is taking his antabuse and 12 stepping it, so his drinking is not the issue. It's his performance and that is directly tied to his health.
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I wish I could go to a game. I live in California so it would be really hard for me to go anywhere to watch a Packers game. If they come to San Diego then I am for sure going but considering they faced them last year it will be a while before they play them again. Hopefully it is here next time.
Well I'm in the UK so I'm just waiting until its the Packers turn to play in London :D
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Well I'm in the UK so I'm just waiting until its the Packers turn to play in London :D
Let me know if you come across any tickets to Wimbledon !

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I don't know where to put this but I find it interesting. Do you guys believe it?

http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/news...an25052400.asp

Ahman Green claimed he had a 4.18 40 time.
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Ahman Green claimed he had a 4.18 40 time.
Yeah, so did I.
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http://www2.jsonline.com/packer/news...an25052400.asp

Ahman Green claimed he had a 4.18 40 time.
The time in the 4.3's is probably accurate.
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who do u guys think will be the starting strong side LB this year Brandon Chillar or Brady Poppinga? I like poppinga i think hes got a pritty good motor but he does struggle in the pass game.
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I hope this is Poppinga's breakout year, but its probably gonna be Chillar's job
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who do u guys think will be the starting strong side LB this year Brandon Chillar or Brady Poppinga? I like poppinga i think hes got a pritty good motor but he does struggle in the pass game.
It'll be an interesting contest in camp, but I don't know if Poppinga's pass covering skills will be improved enough to get the nod
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IMO, I don't find Chillar coverage skills much of an improvement. We still need to find a better option at the SAM.
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who do u guys think will be the starting strong side LB this year Brandon Chillar or Brady Poppinga? I like poppinga i think hes got a pritty good motor but he does struggle in the pass game.
I like Chillar for coverage and B-Pop for rushing. In the Giants game, Brady was hitting the gaps and molesting NY O-line. When he is back-pedaling, NOT the guy you want doing that. Chillar OK as rusher, as well, but this scheme doesn't rush the backers. A pity, as the top four LBs all have some talent getting after the QB if the scheme will open up to let them get to it.
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IMO, I don't find Chillar coverage skills much of an improvement. We still need to find a better option at the SAM.
To be honest, even though I have had the NFL Sunday Ticket for 13 years straight, I have to admit I have never watched/studied/focused on Brandon Chillar in his career with the Rams and in college.

Maybe you have up in Toronto?

I can't accurately comment on his coverage abilities other than heresay from other people. But I do know Poppinga is a bit below average as a cover LB. Not horrible anymore, but not quite up to par. But not for lack of effort, and he's improving.
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actually the thing i like about Chillar is that it lets Poppinga move back to DE like in collage
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Randomly my dad works at Wimbledon, so I get to go pretty much every year! :D
You lucky, bloody fella!
Wimbledon is one of the 3 shrines in the world.
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Anybody think we could do a 43/34 hybrid now?
We've discussed this before, i know
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Anybody think we could do a 43/34 hybrid now?
We've discussed this before, i know
Could we? Yes
Should we? No
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I doubt we could do it. We still would need a LE and someone in the middle to replace Barnett who wouldn't be able to get away from blockers once blocked. He would struggle like Vilma did.
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I doubt we could do it. We still would need a LE and someone in the middle to replace Barnett who wouldn't be able to get away from blockers once blocked. He would struggle like Vilma did.
yeah thats what id be afraid of, he is fairly similar to him in size
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We've discussed this before, i know
We have the horses to play the 3-4. Kampman-Harrell (or Pickett)-Jenkins up front (in addition to Hunter, KGB, JJ, Cole, MM and Muir) with Chillar-Hawk-Barnett-Poppinga as the LBs. Toss in Abdul Hodge and Desmond Bishop and there's the players to switch it up at the defense's discretion.

Were I the DC, I'd practice it in closed sessions and break it out initially in a situation where the opponent is having some success against the 4-3, switch it up to the 3-4 and see if you have more success against the opponent. After that, you could move to it situationally when you want to enhance coverage and still maintain a strong front seven.

I'm not sure it is compatible with the Bates 4-3, as there are some fundamental differences, like pressure from the LBs, but we have the players that could switch it up.
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We have the horses to play the 3-4. Kampman-Harrell (or Pickett)-Jenkins up front (in addition to Hunter, KGB, JJ, Cole, MM and Muir) with Chillar-Hawk-Barnett-Poppinga as the LBs. Toss in Abdul Hodge and Desmond Bishop and there's the players to switch it up at the defense's discretion.

Were I the DC, I'd practice it in closed sessions and break it out initially in a situation where the opponent is having some success against the 4-3, switch it up to the 3-4 and see if you have more success against the opponent. After that, you could move to it situationally when you want to enhance coverage and still maintain a strong front seven.

I'm not sure it is compatible with the Bates 4-3, as there are some fundamental differences, like pressure from the LBs, but we have the players that could switch it up.
Kampman would be a terrible 3-4 DE. He isn't big enough to hold off blockers.
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Why fix something that isn't broken? If we're gonna change anything about our defence then I would like to see some more blitzing from the linebackers etc, I don't think our players fit the 3-4 very well.
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I'd like to see more variety from our coverage instead of the vanilla man-to-man all the time.
Plaxic/Eli torched us..... anytime Plax got the inside on Harris, Eli knew who would be where from the DB......

we need to throw some confusion at the Qbs
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It's official, St. Louis Rams to Mequon, WI for training camp

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