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06-02-2008, 01:07 PM
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I'd have to agree that Scott's argument for Brohm is downright silly. You have to remember that Scott had a Brady Quinn-esque man crush on Rodgers back in 2004 though, so I'm sure he wants him to get every opportunity to prove him right.
On the other hand, I think the general consensus among non-Packers fans (and some Packers fans alike) is that this was a pretty meh.. draft over all for the Packers. There are probably one or two starters and even if Brohm suceeds, it's still going to be because Rodgers failed (I'm still a big fan of the Brohm pick though).
Overall I don't think it was a bad draft, but it was a draft mostly for depth and will likely never make a big impact on the team, so I thnk it's probably somewhere between the B-C range. It's hard to make much of an immediate impact when you're drafting at the bottom of every round.
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06-02-2008, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51
I'd have to agree that Scott's argument for Brohm is downright silly. You have to remember that Scott had a Brady Quinn-esque man crush on Rodgers back in 2004 though, so I'm sure he wants him to get every opportunity to prove him right.
On the other hand, I think the general consensus among non-Packers fans (and some Packers fans alike) is that this was a pretty meh.. draft over all for the Packers. There are probably one or two starters and even if Brohm suceeds, it's still going to be because Rodgers failed (I'm still a big fan of the Brohm pick though).
Overall I don't think it was a bad draft, but it was a draft mostly for depth and will likely never make a big impact on the team, so I thnk it's probably somewhere between the B-C range. It's hard to make much of an immediate impact when you're drafting at the bottom of every round.
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I agree with everything you put down here. I'm a big fan of the Day Two picks such as Finley, Thompson, and Breno, but their impacts will be felt down the road and not immediately. This draft can be better assessed three or four years down the road much like any teams draft, but the initial poor grade is not warranted; it wasn't a great draft, but it wasn't as poor as Scott stated
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06-02-2008, 01:53 PM
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I don't see how the move 'essentially kills any chance Rodgers had of suceeding', it's still his job to lose and why shouldn't we grab the most talented backup quarterback possible rather than settle for a journeyman.
Also although it was a luxury pick, the point is that we covered the majority of our needs and we were never gonna get a rookie starter from this draft. We were in a position to make luxury picks imo.
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06-02-2008, 03:52 PM
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I don't see how the move 'essentially kills any chance Rodgers had of suceeding', it's still his job to lose and why shouldn't we grab the most talented backup quarterback possible rather than settle for a journeyman.
Also although it was a luxury pick, the point is that we covered the majority of our needs and we were never gonna get a rookie starter from this draft. We were in a position to make luxury picks imo.
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Yeah, I didn't really get the "overestimating how good they are" bit. What? We won 13 games. We BARELY lost in overtime in the NFC Championship game to the eventual Superbowl winners. WTF?
We made great value picks except for Sitton, who apparently we saw some potential in. Just a Viking fan..
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06-02-2008, 10:47 PM
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06-03-2008, 10:18 AM
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Hopefully Jeff Brohm pans out for us. Brian will be awfully dissapointed his twin took his spot.
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06-03-2008, 11:46 AM
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Jeff????????
Im really confused, cause jeff is the OC for UofL.
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06-03-2008, 02:36 PM
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No according to Baldinger we drafted him as a backup. If he is an OC to that is just a bonus.:)
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06-03-2008, 03:15 PM
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Scott has never been A fan for drafting best player available. If you read his reports on other teams he always takes about getting other players and not targeting their needs.
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06-03-2008, 05:44 PM
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06-03-2008, 10:14 PM
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Now why is it the NFL players that should be carrying guns don't have 'em and are out there stopping crime, while those that shouldn't be carrying guns have 'em and are out there committing crime?
Noah Herron >>> Pacman Jones!
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06-03-2008, 11:52 PM
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Scott has never been A fan for drafting best player available. If you read his reports on other teams he always takes about getting other players and not targeting their needs.
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It makes it much easier for Scott to make predictions for his mock draft web site when teams draft for need. So im guessing that is at least a partial reason for him not to be a fan of teams that pick BPA. Concidering that Scott gains credibility for every pick he gets right I can see why he prefers teams to pick for need even if its not neccesarily the best strategy.
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06-04-2008, 09:07 PM
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Im very excited about this year's Dline
Possibly 4 DE's (If thompson is as good as I hope) in the rotation and 4 DT's in the rotation (Hopefully Harrell steps up and 5 if you count Jenkins). And apparently Muir isnt too bad either!
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06-04-2008, 09:13 PM
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Today coach McCarthy was asked about the young QBs:
(How are Brian Brohm and Matt Flynn doing to this point?)
Progressing. I'll tell you, Brian Brohm is as sharp a young quarterback that I have been around, and that's a big statement because I have been fortunate enough to coach some very bright quarterbacks in their first and second year in the league. I have been very impressed with the way he picks up the scheme and the way he is able to communicate it.
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06-04-2008, 09:29 PM
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Anybody know Ruvell's rating this year on madden?
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06-04-2008, 09:47 PM
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Anybody know Ruvell's rating this year on madden?
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06-04-2008, 09:48 PM
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I know it is, but im very curious
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06-04-2008, 10:35 PM
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Veteran cornerbacks Al Harris and Charles Woodson both were present for the Green Bay Packers' voluntary offseason workout session Wednesday, its good to see that sum of the vets that are normally not at the voluntary offseason workouts are there, it seems to me that Al and Wood are trying to be the leaders on the team now that we lost Favre.
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06-04-2008, 11:51 PM
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We released Joe Toledo.
With drafting 2 more lineman there was no need what so ever for him so no big deal.
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06-05-2008, 07:24 PM
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I think we're about to have three starting caliber TE's to match our five good recievers.
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The scare came on the day Tory Humphrey practiced in front of reporters for the first time since breaking a leg in July. Humphrey opened the first team period alongside starter Donald Lee in a two-tight set with the No. 1 offense
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I really didnt expect us to take a TE so early because I thought that Humphrey could be the real deal.
Also we have 6-8 Joey Haynos.
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06-08-2008, 03:59 PM
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Im very excited about this year's Dline
Possibly 4 DE's (If thompson is as good as I hope) in the rotation and 4 DT's in the rotation (Hopefully Harrell steps up and 5 if you count Jenkins). And apparently Muir isnt too bad either!
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can I ask what or why you think Thompson is good? I have my fingers crossed, but I don't see him being "special". A Wake Forest DE that didn't put up eye opening #s. I think he will be better than Montgomery and Hunter, but that doesn't take a whole heck of alot. No disrespect to you, just a general wondering...ment.. That pick threw me for a loop.
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