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Old 06-17-2008, 09:07 PM    (permalink
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From all reports it seems that Poppinga and Williams almost have SLB and nickel CB locked down, though that could change. I would agree that WR3 and TE2 are wide open, but those will likely change or be a rotation during the season and won't see that much PT anyway.
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From all reports it seems that Poppinga and Williams almost have SLB and nickel CB locked down, though that could change. I would agree that WR3 and TE2 are wide open, but those will likely change or be a rotation during the season and won't see that much PT anyway.
lol, nothing is settled yet. Remember when Ben Taylor was thought to be the winner over Poppinga a few years ago?

The only spot that may be locked down is with Trammon Williams. But I'd be willing to bet that Pat Lee and Will Blackmon could throw a monkey wrench into that in no time.

WR3 won't see much playing time? LOL
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What I'm saying is JSOnline and sources have mentioned LG and FS as being up for grabs multiple times and said SLB and nickel CB are going to Poppinga and Williams. I didn't even express an opinion, it's just what's being reported thus far.

And like I said, WR3 will probably change and be a rotation during the season, and won't see much PT when you compare it to a starter like LG or FS.
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The only, ONLY, thing I care about during these things is INJURY.
I hold my breath that none of our guys tear their ACLs, or break legs like Tory Humphrey last year.

That stuff can happen on any play in those things.........
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You probably all know already but anyway, Ryan Grant was at minicamp but won't practice until his contract is sorted.
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"I'll put it this way: This is my fourth year and what they've seen is what they're going to get from Nick Collins," he said. "Maybe more (big) plays this year, but what you've seen is what you're going to get. I don't see no other safety doing what I do in the scheme that we play.

"The scheme that we play is so unique and I don't see any other safety that can do the things that I do: play the run, play the pass, do whatever the team needs me to do. I don't see no other safety doing that. My goal this year is just to make more plays."
Bring on Rouse! Collins seems like he has a big head for someone on shaky ground. Doesn't seem like he's trying too hard to improve. Also couldn't help noticing how horrible his grammar is sometimes.

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"As a defensive guy, if my tackles went down this year, I'd be happy, to tell you the truth, because that means our defense is playing better and we're on the field less," Hawk said. "You can never put too much attention on numbers. I just want to be consistent week in and week out and that's the hardest thing to do in the league."

"That'd be great; that's the goal for any defensive player is make some big plays and turnovers and stuff," Hawk said. "But I'm not going to press and do anything different. I'll take what comes to me and do my job and try to be a solid part of this defense."
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That's more what I'd like to hear. Be reliable in pass coverage, maybe learn to take better advantage of interception opportunities and blitz him once in awhile.
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Through 14 games Adrian Peterson averaged 96 yards a game rushing

Ryan Grant, if you include the 2 playoff games, started 12 games and averaged 98 yards a game.

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Through 14 games Adrian Peterson averaged 96 yards a game rushing

Ryan Grant, if you include the 2 playoff games, started 12 games and averaged 98 yards a game.

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Ryan Grant wasn't a top 10 pick, he can't be no good dawg!
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Does Nick Collins understand the role general role of a safety? That's basically what they're supposed to do, play both the run and pass well. I hope Rouse beats him out this year.
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Does Nick Collins understand the role general role of a safety? That's basically what they're supposed to do, play both the run and pass well. I hope Rouse beats him out this year.
Same here. Collins is descent but inconsistant. He clearly isn't ever going to be the player that we thought he could be when we drafted him so its time to move on and see what Rouse can do. I wouldn't even be suprised if Peprah won the job either.
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Does Nick Collins understand the role general role of a safety? That's basically what they're supposed to do, play both the run and pass well. I hope Rouse beats him out this year.
After what ive seen from Rouse last year, hes my starter for this season. 2 picks in the 3 games he started as a rookie, Collins could only dream to do that. His instincts are also incredible and seems to see the play develop before it actually happens. With Collins its basically see and then react which explains the lack of big plays. Collins is still a solid player but Rouse has so much more potential.

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When the Packers rushing game crushes this year, Grant will get his props. I'm also excited to see Brandon get the carries and show what he can do. MM has said that Jackson has had one of the best off-seasons.

Collins was great for a rookie, but I haven't seen him progress to be even all-division yet. Rouse has such a great football physique that if he has the capacity to be football aware, he'll have the capacity to dominate. Also given that his instincts brought the turnovers. If Collins is able to maintain, great. Maybe Rouse can take some reps from Bigby or just push those guys to be more assignment sure.
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I would be hesitant about giving up a 2nd, but if we could get him for a 3rd, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I still might even make the trade for the second rounder depending on how KGB progresses in the next few weeks. It sure would be nice to steal some of the Vikes thunder and get a Pro Bowl DE of our own in a trade.
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I wouldn't give up a 3rd.

With that said TT wouldn't give up that for Randy Moss.Why would he give that up for a 33 year old DE they packers don't really need?

Oh yeah, We already have a pro bowl DE of our own.

On an unrelated note... there's chatter than the receivers are claiming Rodgers has a bigger cannon than Favre did recently.

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I wouldn't give up a 3rd.

With that said TT wouldn't give up that for Randy Moss.Why would he give that up for a 33 year old DE they packers don't really need?

Oh yeah, We already have a pro bowl DE of our own.

On an unrelated note... there's chatter than the receivers are claiming Rodgers has a bigger cannon than Favre did recently.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=3450317
He may have a better long ball, but I doubt he can throw the ball harder than Favre did.
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I'd say perhaps he can when compared to a 38 year old Favre, if they were the same age, no way.
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That's a shocker. I doubt they would give up more than a 4th at this point. Notice the adjective exploratory, meaning that the two teams could be seeing the situation very differently. We aren't the team to give up picks for old players, and given our past draft patterns it seems the first three rounds are expected to be starters.

Edit: JSOnline suggests a 2nd, I doubt it since at age 34 we would only get 2 years out of him at a past his prime playing level. I think we would be confident that we could get somewhere close to that production out of a 2nd rounder and still have a young player under contract.
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Strange how its now Collins under pressure from Rouse and not Bigby, even around draft day people weren't totally confident in Bigby. Is he looking better than Collins in practice?

And I don't think a Jason Taylor trade would be worth it now, especially not a 2nd.
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Strange how its now Collins under pressure from Rouse and not Bigby, even around draft day people weren't totally confident in Bigby. Is he looking better than Collins in practice?

And I don't think a Jason Taylor trade would be worth it now, especially not a 2nd.
Bigby improved in December and in the playoffs. This was also his 1st year as a starter so I'm willing to give him another year to show what he can do.
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